1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:10,080 本片开始于一位来自丹麦的无名男子向我提出的一个建议。 It began when an unknown man from Denmark approached me with a proposition. 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,080 这是他在哥本哈根郊区的小公寓。 This is him in his tiny apartment in the outskirts of Copenhagen. 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,420 如果这是虚构的， If this was a piece of fiction, 4 00:00:18,420 --> 00:00:20,580 没人相信他将会见 no-one would believe that he would be meeting 5 00:00:20,580 --> 00:00:22,900 朝鲜在非洲的军火商。 with North Korean arms dealers in Africa... 6 00:00:22,900 --> 00:00:25,020 你可以进来，没问题。 You can walk in here no problem. 7 00:00:25,020 --> 00:00:27,420 或者去朝鲜驻瑞典大使馆 ...Or going to the North Korean embassy in Sweden 8 00:00:27,420 --> 00:00:29,450 收集秘密文件。 to pick up secret documents. 9 00:00:29,460 --> 00:00:32,900 若发生了什么事，大使馆对此一无所知。 If something happened, embassy does know nothing about this. 10 00:00:32,900 --> 00:00:35,060 当然 Exactly. 11 00:00:35,060 --> 00:00:36,580 但这不是虚构的。 But this is no fiction. 12 00:00:36,820 --> 00:00:39,020 你将看到的一切都是真实的， Everything you are about to see is real, 13 00:00:39,020 --> 00:00:41,280 并且已经持续了十多年。 and has been going on for more than ten years. 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,180 这是他十四岁，在丹麦的某个地方。 This is him aged 14, somewhere in Denmark. 15 00:00:49,180 --> 00:00:51,140 他正在庆祝生日。 He is celebrating his birthday. 16 00:00:51,380 --> 00:00:53,300 来宾中有 Among the guests are children who grew up 17 00:00:53,300 --> 00:00:56,240 在共产主义专政的东德长大的孩子。 in the communist dictatorship East Germany. 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,500 多年后，作为一个成年人，他将声称 Many years later, as a grown man, he will claim that 19 00:01:01,500 --> 00:01:04,340 与这些孩子结交并了解到极权主义政权的恐怖 be friending these kids and learning about the horrors 20 00:01:04,340 --> 00:01:09,580 使他决定潜入并揭发 of a totalitarian regime made him decide to infiltrate and expose 21 00:01:09,580 --> 00:01:11,960 最残暴的独裁统治... the most brutal dictatorship of all... 22 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,980 朝鲜。 North Korea. 23 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,100 这是一个很好的解释，如果这是真的，但他选择将自己 It's a nice explanation, if true, but exactly why he chose to place himself 24 00:01:28,100 --> 00:01:31,970 置于致命危险中的确切原因也不重要。 in mortal danger is also beside the point. 25 00:01:31,970 --> 00:01:35,580 这里唯一重要的是他是个鼹鼠（间谍）。 What only matters here is that he is a mole. 26 00:02:34,580 --> 00:02:36,980 {\b1}鼹鼠：卧底朝鲜{\b0} 27 00:02:41,230 --> 00:02:45,330 最后，我不得不请一位专家帮我解决问题。 In the end, I had to hire an expert to help me sort it out. 28 00:02:45,330 --> 00:02:48,930 安妮·马琼是情报界颇具争议的人物， Annie Machon is a contentious figure in the intelligence world, 29 00:02:48,930 --> 00:02:50,890 但这与我无关。 but this does not concern me. 30 00:02:50,890 --> 00:02:55,050 我只对她听取特工汇报的技巧感兴趣。 I am only interested in her skills in debriefing agents. 31 00:02:55,050 --> 00:03:00,550 安妮，鼹鼠昨晚来了？ So, Annie, the mole arrived last night? 32 00:03:01,550 --> 00:03:03,750 很快他就准备好了吗？ And soon he's ready for you? 33 00:03:05,710 --> 00:03:07,150 你有什么顾虑吗？ Do you have concerns? 34 00:03:09,790 --> 00:03:15,390 大概我们应该在你见到鼹鼠后再讨论。 Maybe... we should discuss that after you have met the mole. 35 00:03:23,550 --> 00:03:25,050 你好，乌尔里克。我是安妮。 Hi, Ulrich. I'm Annie. 36 00:03:25,050 --> 00:03:27,260 -嗨，安妮。很高兴认识你。-我也很高兴见到你。 - Hi, Annie. Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you, too. 37 00:03:27,830 --> 00:03:30,290 我以前在英国安全局工作， I used to work for the British Security Service, 38 00:03:30,290 --> 00:03:34,250 又称军情五处，我作为情报部门的一员 otherwise known as MI5, and part of my job as an intelligence officer 39 00:03:34,250 --> 00:03:36,050 是听取特工汇报情况。 was to debrief agents. 40 00:03:36,050 --> 00:03:38,970 所以电影团队让我来听你汇报情况 So the film team has asked me in to debrief you 41 00:03:38,970 --> 00:03:41,370 关于你过去十年的生活。 about your life over the last ten years. 42 00:03:41,370 --> 00:03:42,370 对 Yes. 43 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,860 你能多告诉我一点关于他的情况吗？他的背景？ Can you tell me a little bit more about him? His background? 44 00:03:48,030 --> 00:03:50,650 你知道，如果他要抢劫银行， You know, if he would rob a bank, 45 00:03:50,650 --> 00:03:53,590 你无法描述他。 you would not be able to describe him. 46 00:03:57,470 --> 00:03:59,300 -他融入了-他融入了。 - He blends in. - He blends in. 47 00:03:59,300 --> 00:04:00,330 完美的 Perfect. 48 00:04:01,110 --> 00:04:04,290 那么，你是怎么对朝鲜感兴趣的？ So, how did you get interested in North Korea? 49 00:04:04,290 --> 00:04:06,070 哦，说来话长。 Oh, it's a long story. 50 00:04:07,950 --> 00:04:10,610 这是一个很长的故事，所以我会加快速度。 It is a long story, so I will speed it up. 51 00:04:10,610 --> 00:04:14,650 早在2006年，作为一名来自丹麦的记者，我去了朝鲜 Back in 2006, as a journalist from Denmark, I went to North Korea 52 00:04:14,650 --> 00:04:18,290 拍摄了一部纪录片《红色礼堂》。 and shot a documentary called The Red Chapel. 53 00:04:18,290 --> 00:04:21,050 平壤政权真的很讨厌我的电影， The regime in Pyongyang really hated my film, 54 00:04:21,050 --> 00:04:25,130 因此，我再也回不了朝鲜了。 and because of that, I can never travel back to North Korea. 55 00:04:25,130 --> 00:04:28,450 从西方的角度来看，这部电影有它的亮点， Seen from a western point of view, the film has its moments, 56 00:04:28,450 --> 00:04:31,170 但它没有提供确凿的证据， but it does not offer up the smoking gun, 57 00:04:31,170 --> 00:04:34,570 证明朝鲜是一个 the irrefutable proof that North Korea is an evil 58 00:04:34,570 --> 00:04:36,550 邪恶和犯罪的企业。 and criminal enterprise. 59 00:04:37,830 --> 00:04:40,970 从那以后，我一直在努力证明这些观点， Ever since, I have been on a quest to prove these points, 60 00:04:40,970 --> 00:04:44,220 却被永远禁止进入那片秘境。 yet being forever banned from the Chamber of Secrets. 61 00:04:45,990 --> 00:04:50,810 但回到丹麦，我更喜欢称之为鼹鼠的人看到了我的电影， But back in Denmark, the man who I prefer to call the mole saw my film, 62 00:04:50,810 --> 00:04:53,730 不知怎么的，这让他产生了一个想法 and somehow it gave him the idea that he could travel 63 00:04:53,730 --> 00:04:55,870 代替我去朝鲜。 to North Korea in my place. 64 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,950 为什么不呢？去吧，然后... Why not? Just go, and... 65 00:04:59,960 --> 00:05:01,790 然后我... Then I... 66 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,230 …给麦斯写了封电子邮件。 ...wrote an e-mail to Mads. 67 00:05:07,620 --> 00:05:12,890 大约十年前，他突然写信问 Approximately ten years ago, out of nowhere, he wrote and asked 68 00:05:12,890 --> 00:05:17,010 如果我有兴趣拍一部关于他的电影 if I would be interested in doing a film about him 69 00:05:17,010 --> 00:05:21,980 渗入丹麦-朝鲜友好协会。 infiltrating the Danish North Korean Friendship Association. 70 00:05:23,390 --> 00:05:26,520 哥本哈根 2011 丹麦 71 00:05:26,590 --> 00:05:28,130 我是说，发生了什么？ So-- I mean, what happened? 72 00:05:28,130 --> 00:05:31,810 你能告诉我你在这件事上采取的最初步骤吗， Can you talk me through exactly the first steps you took in this, 73 00:05:31,810 --> 00:05:34,710 以及你正在经历的那种思考过程？ and the sort of thought process you were going through? 74 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,590 -你是说朝鲜友谊…？-对 - You mean with the Korean Friendship...? - Yes. 75 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:45,030 我找到了丹麦友谊协会和主席安德斯·克里斯滕森。 I found the Danish Friendship Association, and the chairman, Anders Kristensen. 76 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:50,110 三周后，他邀请我参加第一次公开会议。 He invited me to the first public meeting three weeks later. 77 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,310 我上来时他是房间里唯一的人- And he was the only person in the room when I came up, - 78 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,870 -试图竖起朝鲜国旗。 - trying to put up a North Korean flag. 79 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:02,350 我像往常一样去打招呼，握手。 And I went like I normally do, go and say hello, shake hands. 80 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,390 我有这样一个…你知道，非常... I had such a... You know, very... 81 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,310 这甚至不是握手，很像是手滑开了。 It was not even a handshake, it was very like the hands slipped away. 82 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,590 好吧，这是男人还是...？ OK, is this a man or...? 83 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,390 -水母？-对 - A jellyfish? - Yes. 84 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,310 他很快就告诉人们这是一位新成员。 He was quite fast to tell people that this is a new member. 85 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:22,390 朝鲜于当地时间昨天11时57分进行了第三次核试验。 North Korea yesterday at 11:57 local time carried out their third nuclear bomb test. 86 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,990 爆炸威力明显大于- The blast was significantly more powerful than - 87 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,990 -2006年和2009年的测试。 - the previous tests from 2006 and 2009. 88 00:06:28,550 --> 00:06:34,610 我告诉他，如果它会演变成某种东西，可能会很有趣 I told him it could be of interest if it would evolve to something 89 00:06:34,610 --> 00:06:36,770 受到国际瞩目， of international importance, 90 00:06:36,770 --> 00:06:40,970 因为丹麦-朝鲜友好协会本身 because the Danish North Korean Friendship Association in itself 91 00:06:40,970 --> 00:06:44,690 是一群相当令人沮丧的人。 is a fairly depressing group of people. 92 00:06:47,660 --> 00:06:50,610 他说：“如果有趣，请随时通知我。” He said, "Please keep me posted if it's interesting," 93 00:06:50,610 --> 00:06:52,030 我想，“好的。” and I was like, "Okay." 94 00:06:53,670 --> 00:06:58,250 我还告诉他，“我将不会给你任何钱，” I also told him, "I will never be able to pay you any money," 95 00:06:58,250 --> 00:07:01,450 所以这对他来说并不重要， so that is not of importance for him, 96 00:07:01,450 --> 00:07:03,110 然后他继续前进。 and then he just kept on going. 97 00:07:04,790 --> 00:07:08,410 鼹鼠钻进兔子洞，发现了一个由丹麦老人组成的奇异世界 The mole went down the rabbit hole and discovered a bizarre world 98 00:07:08,410 --> 00:07:12,910 他们是朝鲜真正的朋友。 of Danish senior citizens who are true friends of North Korea. 99 00:07:16,390 --> 00:07:19,250 鼹鼠在森严的等级制度中缓慢而坚定地前进 Slowly but surely, the mole advanced in the hierarchy 100 00:07:19,250 --> 00:07:21,210 成为董事会成员， and became a member of the board, 101 00:07:21,210 --> 00:07:23,850 在主席安德斯·克里斯滕森手下工作， working under chairman Anders Kristensen, 102 00:07:23,850 --> 00:07:25,350 一个顽固的共产党员。 a die-hard communist. 103 00:07:26,990 --> 00:07:29,890 在这里，你可以看到他回到鼎盛时期， Here you have him back in his heyday, meeting with 104 00:07:29,890 --> 00:07:33,490 与朝鲜的缔造者，永远的主席金日成， the founder of North Korea, Eternal President Kim Il-sung, 105 00:07:33,490 --> 00:07:36,230 现任统治者金正恩的祖父。 grandfather of the current ruler, Kim Jong-un. 106 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,470 你现在可以挂了。 You can hang it up now. 107 00:07:43,870 --> 00:07:47,450 鼹鼠一直在拍摄，借口是 All the time, the mole was filming, the excuse being that he was 108 00:07:54,460 --> 00:07:57,720 我是董事会骄傲的一员，在这里我一直在战斗 109 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,360 为了保卫了不起的朝鲜 110 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,890 但我们需要意识到，有些人今天是我们的朋友和同志 111 00:08:04,910 --> 00:08:06,400 明天就是我们最大的敌人 112 00:08:07,710 --> 00:08:11,270 将有五队间谍。我们真的需要当心这些。 113 00:07:47,450 --> 00:07:51,750 他在为YouTube制作关于他作为董事会成员工作的影片。 making movies for YouTube about his work as a board member. 114 00:08:13,270 --> 00:08:17,130 那么，当你成为会员后，事情进展如何， So, how did things progress for you once you were a member, 115 00:08:17,130 --> 00:08:18,190 在董事会上？ and on the board? 116 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,750 当然，我最大的愿望是访问朝鲜- Well, my biggest wish was to visit North Korea, of course, - 117 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,910 -要到那里，你需要成为协会的成员。 - and to come there, you need to be a part of an Association. 118 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,710 正在拍摄的乌尔里克是董事会成员。 Ulrich, who is filming, is a member of the board. 119 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,910 他正在拍摄一部关于协会工作的影片。 He is making a film about the association's work. 120 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,110 他还将参加我们的朝鲜之行，我们将在大约一周后前往朝鲜。 He will also join our trip to Korea, where we will travel in about one week. 121 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,760 平壤 2012 朝鲜 122 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,590 当我们到达时，我们在那里合影。 When we arrive, we take a group picture there. 123 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,870 将会登报。 For the newspaper. 124 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,470 -清楚吗？-是 啊 - Is it clear? - Yeah. 125 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,480 好啊 Ok. 126 00:09:10,790 --> 00:09:12,770 鼹鼠去了朝鲜， The mole went to North Korea, 127 00:09:12,770 --> 00:09:15,270 朝鲜人喜欢上了他。 and the North Koreans took a liking to him. 128 00:09:17,140 --> 00:09:21,250 他在朝鲜的主要联系人是一个叫姜的人， His main contact person in North Korea was a man named Kang, 129 00:09:21,250 --> 00:09:23,710 他在文化事务部工作。 who works for the Ministry of Cultural Affairs. 130 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,470 -一切都在控制之中？-是的，是的。 - Everything under control? - Yeah, yeah. 131 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,070 在朝鲜，一切都在掌控之中。 Always in Korea, everything is in control. 132 00:09:32,710 --> 00:09:36,910 姜是这个关于欺骗和阴谋的故事中的关键人物。 Kang is a key person in this tale of deceit and intrigue. 133 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,150 我们信任你，我们真的把你们当成朋友。 We trust you and we really treat you as friends. 134 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,710 -是的。-但是 - Yes. - But... 135 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,510 你们必须明白有些地方是敏感的... You have to understand that there are places which are sensitive... 136 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:56,830 也许间谍们对这种地方感兴趣。 And maybe the spies are interested in this kind of places. 137 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,270 这些是军事场所。 These are military places. 138 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,190 所以所有的朝鲜人都非常警觉... So all the Korean people are very alert... 139 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,550 你好，你好... Hello, hello... 140 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:15,030 你好...你好...很高兴见到你。 Hello... Hi... Nice meeting you. 141 00:10:15,110 --> 00:10:19,730 鼹鼠在朝鲜所到之处，他都在拍摄。 Everywhere he went in North Korea, the mole was filming. 142 00:10:19,730 --> 00:10:23,530 当然，他在领取奖牌时也带了相机， Of course, he also brought his camera when he was awarded a medal, 143 00:10:23,530 --> 00:10:25,710 嘉奖他为这个政权所做的工作。 recognising his work for the regime. 144 00:10:29,390 --> 00:10:31,940 -好的，恭喜你。-非常感谢。 - Okay, congratulations. - Thank you. 145 00:10:33,270 --> 00:10:35,750 那么，事情是什么时候真正开始变化的？ So when did things really start to move? 146 00:10:35,750 --> 00:10:37,590 2012年我在朝鲜时- When I was in North Korea in 2012, - 147 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,590 -我遇到了一个名叫亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯的西班牙人。 - I met a Spanish person named Alejandro Cao de Benos. 148 00:10:42,060 --> 00:10:44,550 你能确认这是他的照片吗？ Could you confirm that this is a photograph of him? 149 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,630 -就是他。-是啊 - That's him. - Yeah? 150 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,390 他是朝鲜友好协会（KFA）的会长。 He's the president of the Korean Friendship Association — KFA. 151 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,990 据他自己说，全世界有几十万会员。 And according to himself there are hundreds of thousands of members around the world. 152 00:10:56,750 --> 00:10:59,330 在平壤政权的朋友中， Amongst the friends of the regime in Pyongyang, 153 00:10:59,330 --> 00:11:02,270 亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯等级最高。 Alejandro Cao de Benos is the biggest friend. 154 00:11:04,420 --> 00:11:05,610 与小团体相比 Compared to a small group 155 00:11:05,610 --> 00:11:08,620 例如丹麦-朝鲜友好协会， such as the Danish North Korean Friendship Association, 156 00:11:08,830 --> 00:11:12,770 朝鲜友好协会是国际协会 the Korean Friendship Association is the international lodge 157 00:11:12,770 --> 00:11:16,190 对于那些认为朝鲜是人间天堂的人来说。 for people who consider North Korea to be heaven on Earth. 158 00:11:19,790 --> 00:11:21,650 亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯是 Alejandro Cao de Benos is the founder 159 00:11:21,650 --> 00:11:23,770 朝鲜友好协会的创始人 of the Korean Friendship Association 160 00:11:24,250 --> 00:11:29,100 {\an8}想和平壤做生意吗？给朝鲜在西班牙的代理人打电话 161 00:11:29,130 --> 00:11:31,010 {\an8}"我是唯一能联系的人。” 162 00:11:23,770 --> 00:11:28,110 全世界都知道他是朝鲜的守门人。 and is known around the world as the gatekeeper of North Korea. 163 00:11:31,030 --> 00:11:35,210 因此，亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯是我（导演）的导游和入场券 As such, Alejandro Cao de Benos was my tour guide and access ticket 164 00:11:35,210 --> 00:11:38,690 当我2006年去朝鲜时。 when I travelled to North Korea back in 2006. 165 00:11:38,690 --> 00:11:42,450 在这里，我们正在为一家朝鲜报社拍照。 Here, we are posing for a North Korean newspaper. 166 00:11:42,450 --> 00:11:46,370 和他在一起，我发现很难理解为什么亚历杭德罗， Spending time with him, I found it hard to understand why Alejandro, 167 00:11:46,370 --> 00:11:48,930 他出生在西班牙，生活在西班牙， who was born in Spain and lives in Spain, 168 00:11:48,930 --> 00:11:52,510 选择了为朝鲜当啦啦队的生活。 has chosen a life as a cheerleader for North Korea. 169 00:11:55,310 --> 00:11:58,570 根据联合国的说法，朝鲜饥饿、虐待 According to the UN, North Korea starves, abuses 170 00:11:58,570 --> 00:12:01,930 每天杀害本国公民， and kills its own citizens on a daily basis, 171 00:12:01,930 --> 00:12:05,870 但亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯认为这一切都是假新闻。 but Alejandro Cao de Benos considers all that to be fake news. 172 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:12,150 你知道联合国和大赦国际的报告很强硬吗？ You are aware of the reports from the UN and Amnesty International, which are very tough? 173 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,610 是的，因为它们被用作宣传工具。 Yes, because they are being used as propaganda tools. 174 00:12:15,620 --> 00:12:20,530 我还发现他最喜欢的食物是法式糕点和糖果， I also discovered that his preferred foods are French pastry and candies, 175 00:12:20,530 --> 00:12:25,090 我想这是超级恶棍的完美饮食。 which is, I guess, the perfect diet for a supervillain. 176 00:12:25,090 --> 00:12:26,950 你认为亚历杭德罗危险吗？ Do you think Alejandro's dangerous? 177 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,310 是的，我知道。特别是当他在朝鲜的时候。 Yes, I do. Especially when he is in North Korea. 178 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,990 因为他有能力对自己不喜欢的事情做出反应。 Because he has the power to react to things he doesn't like. 179 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,710 他是自己宇宙中的小独裁者。 He is a small dictator in his own universe. 180 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,150 “给世界进步人民的法案。” "A bill to the progressive peoples of the World." 181 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,910 亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯- Alejandro Cao de Benos, - 182 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:10,270 -我们能说你是唯一一个随意进入朝鲜的西方人吗？ - can we say that you are the only Westerner who easily enters North Korea? 183 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,070 世界上唯一代表朝鲜的西方人？ And who represents North Korea? The only Westerner in the world? 184 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,070 是的，第一个也是唯一一个西方人。 Yes the first and only Westerner. 185 00:13:15,100 --> 00:13:17,290 你是西班牙贵族 You're a Spanish aristocrat 186 00:13:17,290 --> 00:13:20,590 代表朝鲜政权。这对你有什么好处？ representing the North Korean regime. What's in it for you? 187 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:26,190 这是一个长达三十年的故事，但尽管我有贵族血统- Well, it's a long story of 30 years, but although I come from an aristocratic family, - 188 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,990 -但我只是一个工人的儿子。所以我想贡献- - I'm just the son of a worker. So I wanted to contribute - 189 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,130 -建设社会主义国家。 - to the construction of a socialist country. 190 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,590 我创建了朝鲜友好协会- I created the Korean Friendship Association, so I could facilitate - 191 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:40,190 -这个组织是朝鲜与世界其他国家之间的桥梁。 - the meeting and the bridge between North Korea and the rest of the countries in the world. 192 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,190 晚上好，曹·德·贝诺斯先生。 Good evening, Mr. Cao de Benos. 193 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:51,070 朝鲜只是想保证自己的生存和未来。 North Korea just wants to guarantee its survival and future. 194 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,470 实现这一目标的唯一途径是发展核防御。 The only way to do that is developing a nuclear defense. 195 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,470 如果朝鲜消失，世界也不复存在。 There will be no world without Korea. 196 00:13:58,500 --> 00:14:02,090 如果朝鲜受到美国的核攻击- If North Korea is attacked nuclearly by the United States, - 197 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,510 -正如我们所知，世界将终结。 - the world will end as we know it. 198 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,710 金日成同志万岁！ Hail comrade Kim Il-sung! 199 00:14:16,190 --> 00:14:20,250 所以你在平壤见到他，然后你回到欧洲， So you meet him in Pyongyang, and then you go back to Europe, 200 00:14:20,250 --> 00:14:23,790 -然后你的第二次会面是在你去西班牙的时候。-是啊 - and then your second meeting is when you go to Spain. - Yeah. 201 00:14:23,850 --> 00:14:29,450 巴塞罗纳 2013 西班牙 202 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:30,630 你好 Hello. 203 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,470 我们在巴塞罗那，阿斯托里亚酒店前- We are here in Barcelona, in front of Hotel Astoria, - 204 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:38,430 -我们刚刚和同事乌尔里克进行了一次精彩的会面- - and we just had a wonderful meeting with our colleague Ulrich, - 205 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,670 -讨论感兴趣的问题。 - discussing matters of interest. 206 00:14:42,830 --> 00:14:44,950 你能给我讲讲那次会议吗？ Can you tell me a little bit about that meeting? 207 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,630 那是在巴塞罗那郊区的一家小旅馆里- It was in a small hotel in the outskirts of Barcelona, - 208 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,470 -我们聊了两三个小时... - and we talked like two or three hours... 209 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,910 ……当然有很多关于朝鲜的事，还有... ...of course a lot about North Korea, and... 210 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:01,310 我刚刚和西班牙同志亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯进行了一次很好的会面。 I just had a great meeting with the Spanish comrade, Alejandro Cao de Benos. 211 00:15:02,140 --> 00:15:04,050 然后他开始告诉我安德斯的事。 Then he starts telling me about Anders. 212 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:09,750 他对安德斯多年来的所作所为了如指掌。 He is well informed about what Anders has done throughout the years. 213 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:14,230 很明显，他没有进化，也没有做出任何新的努力。 It is clear that he does not evolve, nor does he bring forth any new efforts. 214 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,670 我同意他的主张。 I agree with his assertion. 215 00:15:16,910 --> 00:15:18,940 亚历杭德罗想要你做什么？ So what did Alejandro want from you? 216 00:15:18,940 --> 00:15:24,030 然后他想让我成为“官方代表”- He then wanted me to be the "official delegate" - 217 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,670 -在丹麦的KFA。 - at the KFA in Denmark. 218 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:32,510 这就是为什么我悄悄地创办了自己的丹麦KFA。 That is why I quietly start my own KFA Denmark. 219 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,390 我当然是由亚历杭德罗任命的。 Where I of course am appointed by Alejandro. 220 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,870 我将是他最亲近的人之一。 I will be one of his closest. 221 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,550 在国际上，他希望我建立一些联系。 Also internationally, he wants me to establish some contacts. 222 00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:51,340 科隆 2013 德国 223 00:15:52,910 --> 00:15:55,690 于是鼹鼠开始在朝鲜友好协会运作 And so the mole began channelling his way through 224 00:15:55,690 --> 00:15:59,570 希望找到这个 the Korean Friendship Association, hoping to find the secrets 225 00:15:59,570 --> 00:16:02,380 全球平壤之友俱乐部的秘密。 of this global club for friends of Pyongyang. 226 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,630 我们的最高指挥官金正恩万岁。 Long live our Supreme Commander Kim Jong-un. 227 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,510 最后一个演讲：乌尔里克·拉森。 The last speech: Ulrich Larsen. 228 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,110 乌尔里克同志，我想你代表丹麦KFA发表演讲？ Comrade Ulrich, I think you have a speech on behalf of KFA Denmark? 229 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:23,550 我叫乌尔里克·拉森，是KFA在丹麦的新分支机构负责人。 My name is Ulrich Larsen, and I'm the new branch of KFA in Denmark. 230 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,310 我真的很高兴来到这里并在这个年会上发言。 And I'm really happy to be here and to speak at this annual meeting. 231 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,590 乔纳斯（摄像），你能在我们打招呼的时候给我们拍电影吗？Jonas, can you film us here, while we say hi? 232 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,550 -是的，很好。-只是不要遮挡... - Yes, fine. - Just don't cover... 233 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,990 -全身。-不要遮挡肖像。 - Full body. - Don't cover the portraits. 234 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,430 亚历杭德罗，很高兴再次见到你。很高兴来到这里。一直如此，你知道。 Alejandro, good to see you again. Very pleased to be here. Always, you know. 235 00:16:44,180 --> 00:16:47,690 在我的建议下，鼹鼠配备了一个专业的摄影师 Advised by me, the mole had a professional cameraman 236 00:16:47,690 --> 00:16:51,750 在丹麦KFA注册成为他的私人助理。 enrolled in KFA Denmark as his personal assistant. 237 00:16:56,070 --> 00:16:59,030 亚历杭德罗知道你生活中的个人方面吗？ Is Alejandro aware of the personal aspects of your life? 238 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,070 是啊 Yeah. 239 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,670 我认为这也是他任用我的原因之一- And I think that's one of the reasons he wants me, too; - 240 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:08,990 -因为他认为我有很多时间在斯堪的纳维亚半岛扮演 朝鲜人。 - because he thinks I have a lot of time to be the North Korean man in Scandinavia. 241 00:17:09,830 --> 00:17:14,690 在他的现实生活中，鼹鼠是一位退休厨师 A lot of time because, in his real life, the mole is a retired chef 242 00:17:14,690 --> 00:17:17,170 靠政府的福利补贴生活 who lives on welfare subsidies from the government 243 00:17:17,170 --> 00:17:19,290 因为某种慢性病 because of some sort of chronic disease 244 00:17:19,290 --> 00:17:21,170 他无法工作。 which prevents him from working. 245 00:17:21,170 --> 00:17:24,210 他已婚，有孩子，住在 He is married with children and resides in the suburbs 246 00:17:24,210 --> 00:17:27,970 哥本哈根郊区，过着看似正常的生活。 of Copenhagen, living a seemingly normal life. 247 00:17:27,970 --> 00:17:31,420 因此，他是你想要的最好的间谍。 As such, he is the best mole you could ever want. 248 00:17:34,210 --> 00:17:36,390 布鲁塞尔 2014 比利时 249 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,870 这是一场与丹麦媒体的长期斗争- It's a long fight against the Danish media; - 250 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,590 -当他们有机会开动帝国主义宣传机器... - whenever they have the chance to print imperialistic propaganda... 251 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:48,350 事实上，KFA中的许多人都失业了。 Actually, many of the persons in the KFA are unemployed. 252 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,350 ……领导人金正日总是虑无不周... ...Leader Kim Jong-Il always thought the best and... 253 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:53,510 永远的金日成主席... The Eternal President Kim Il-sung... 254 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,630 ……金正日担任朝鲜人民军最高司令官... ...Kim Jong-il as the Supreme Commander of the Korean People's Army... 255 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,550 ……领导人金日成不得不... ...Leader Kim Il-sung had to... 256 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,190 我想他们发现了他的独特之处- I think they find something unique with him, - 257 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,670 -因为他让他们感到受欢迎。 - because he makes them feel welcome. 258 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,830 -每个人都热爱一项事业。-确切地 - Everyone loves a cause. - Exactly. 259 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:35,430 让我们更加骄傲，更加坚强- Let us become more proud and grow more strong, - 260 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,470 -直到我们取得最终胜利！非常感谢。 - until we achieve the Final Victory! Thank you! 261 00:18:39,390 --> 00:18:41,550 {\an5\pos(1022,662)} 洪鹤邦 朝鲜驻英国大使 262 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,130 我参加了欧洲各地KFA的年度会议。 I participated in annual meetings in the KFA around Europe. 263 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,610 塔拉戈纳 2015 西班牙 264 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:59,030 我给我们在丹麦的官方代表乌尔里克·拉森打电话。 I'm calling Ulrich Larsen, our official delegate in Denmark. 265 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,510 乌尔里克，请出示你的奖牌。 Ulrich, please show your medal. 266 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,420 两年后，我成为了斯堪的纳维亚半岛的KFA代表。 Then, two years after, I was the KFA delegate of Scandinavia. 267 00:19:10,450 --> 00:19:12,100 所以他给了我四个国家。 So he gave me four countries. 268 00:19:12,620 --> 00:19:14,870 这是一个很快的飞跃。 That's quite a quick leap up. 269 00:19:14,870 --> 00:19:16,550 -是的，进展很快。 - It went quite fast, yes. 270 00:19:16,820 --> 00:19:19,350 那你的职责是什么？ So what were your responsibilities in that? 271 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,630 他希望我应对媒体，如果他们... He of course wanted me to react to the media, if they... 272 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,590 你知道，所有的谎言，在…用朝鲜人的眼睛看。 You know, all the lies, in... Seen with North Korean eyes. 273 00:19:29,110 --> 00:19:32,070 这是来自哥本哈根的乌尔里克。这是他不得不说的。 This is Ulrich out of Copenhagen. Here's what he had to say. 274 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,830 在朝鲜，你有很多你从未见过的好东西。 In North Korea, you have many good things that you never see. 275 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,550 我一个月前刚回来，看到- I just came back here a month ago, and I was surprised to see - 276 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,670 -朝鲜人的未来是多么美好。 - how bright the future looks for the North Koreans. 277 00:19:45,390 --> 00:19:47,410 安德烈，他真的很喜欢这个主题 So, Andre, he's really picking up on that theme 278 00:19:47,410 --> 00:19:49,740 德莫特对朝鲜的诽谤。 that Dermot had about a smear against North Korea. 279 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:03,190 乔纳斯，他正在剪辑小视频，我们将在Facebook上发布，大家可以分享。 Jonas he is making small video clips, and we'll put up one on Facebook which you all can share. 280 00:20:16,750 --> 00:20:20,810 你知道他有没有告诉他的妻子他在做什么吗？ Do you happen to know if he's told his wife what he was doing? 281 00:20:20,810 --> 00:20:22,090 我不这么认为。 I don't think so. 282 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:26,830 当你在朝鲜时- When you are in North Korea, - 283 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,470 -人们闻起来很难闻。 - people smell bad. 284 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,790 这方面还行，但他们的香水相当... Not bad in that way, but their perfumes are rather... 285 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,670 ……他们闻到很多酒味。 ...they smell a lot of alcohol. 286 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,190 我很幸运从我父亲那里得到了一个。 And I was lucky to get one of these from my father. 287 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,430 所以当我和他们一起外出时- So I made it into a tradition, when I'm out with them, - 288 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,230 -在这种情况下- - in this context, - 289 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,030 -我在开会前喷一点，所以气味让我感觉- - I spray myself before the meetings, so the smell gives me some sort of - 290 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:57,390 -表明我现在在朝鲜的旗帜下。 - signal that I'm now under North Korea's banner. 291 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:07,590 当你披着那股奇怪的气味回家时，你妻子说了什么？ What did your wife say when you went home smelling of that strange scent? 292 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,510 她被讲述了另一个故事。 She is told another story. 293 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,710 我不能告诉她真相，因为那样她就不让我走了。 I couldn't tell her the truth, because then she wouldn't let me go. 294 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,990 -我是萨莎。-你好 - It's Sasha. - Hi. 295 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:24,600 -嗨。-你好 - Hi. - Hi. 296 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,590 -怎么了？-我们今天干到现在。 - What's up? - We are done for today. 297 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,150 我累了，会议开了一整天- I'm tired, it's been a long day of meetings - 298 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,550 -有很多有趣的事儿。 - with a lot of funny information. 299 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:36,910 是的，好的。 Yeah, OK. 300 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,270 孩子们开心吗？ The kids are happy? 301 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,110 是的，我们今天去过蒂沃利花园。 Yes, we have been to Tivoli Gardens today. 302 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:42,830 可以 Okay. 303 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,310 他们玩得很开心。 They were having a good time. 304 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,320 好的 Good. 305 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,160 -是的，是的。-我稍后再给你打电话。 - Yes, yes. - I'll call you later. 306 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,030 明天和你谈谈？ Talk to you tomorrow? 307 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,270 -好的。-没关系。 - Okay. - That's fine. 308 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,190 -再见。-再见 - Goodbye. - Bye. 309 00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:10,710 为什么亚历杭德罗喜欢鼹鼠？他在鼹鼠身上看到了什么？ Why does Alejandro like the mole? What does he see in the mole? 310 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:17,290 他希望我找到愿意在朝鲜投资的人。 He wants me to find people who would like to invest money in North Korea. 311 00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:21,810 亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯开始向鼹鼠施压。 Alejandro Cao de Benos begins putting pressure on the mole. 312 00:22:21,810 --> 00:22:25,450 贝诺斯想让他寻找愿意投资的商人 He wants him to source for businessmen who will invest 313 00:22:25,450 --> 00:22:26,930 在朝鲜。 in North Korea. 314 00:22:26,930 --> 00:22:31,370 所以，真正的主干是筹集业务和投资。 So the main part, really, is raising business and investment. 315 00:22:31,370 --> 00:22:35,050 2013年在丹麦拍摄的一次汇报中， In a debriefing filmed in Denmark back in 2013, 316 00:22:35,050 --> 00:22:39,610 鼹鼠已经在谈论KFA主席亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯 the mole was already talking about KFA president Alejandro Cao de Benos 317 00:22:39,610 --> 00:22:41,950 希望他找到投资者。 wanting him to find investors. 318 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:51,520 他开始谈论在朝鲜的三个投资项目。 He started talking about three investment projects in North Korea. 319 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,830 -什么类型？-他没有说。 - What kind? - He doesn't say. 320 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:00,470 他正在寻找五至一百万欧元的资金。 He's looking for capital from 50.000 to 1 million Euro. 321 00:23:01,670 --> 00:23:04,170 但在朝鲜投资是一件棘手的事 But investing in North Korea is tricky business 322 00:23:04,170 --> 00:23:06,690 因为联合国的严厉制裁 because of the tough UN sanctions 323 00:23:06,690 --> 00:23:09,810 针对资金匮乏的政权。 levelled against the cash-starved regime. 324 00:23:09,810 --> 00:23:12,130 新的制裁措施包括禁止朝鲜出口商品， The new sanctions include a ban on exports of 325 00:23:12,130 --> 00:23:16,290 如机械和电气设备。 North Korean goods such as machinery and electrical equipment. 326 00:23:16,290 --> 00:23:19,290 因为没有一个头脑正常的人会向朝鲜扔钱， Since no-one in their right mind would throw money at North Korea, 327 00:23:19,290 --> 00:23:24,370 我决定编造一个假投资者，好让鼹鼠弄清 I decided to invent a fake investor in order for the mole to find out 328 00:23:24,370 --> 00:23:27,410 亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯到底在想什么。 what exactly Alejandro Cao de Benos had in mind. 329 00:23:27,410 --> 00:23:31,830 我忘了提还有一个人参与了这件事。 I forgot to mention there is another person involved in this. 330 00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:36,330 那个人是詹姆斯先生。 That person is Mr. James. 331 00:23:36,330 --> 00:23:37,850 他的真名是吉姆， His real name is Jim, 332 00:23:37,850 --> 00:23:41,610 他被我选中扮演詹姆斯先生， and he was chosen by me to perform the role as Mr. James, 333 00:23:41,610 --> 00:23:43,790 一个具有国际神秘感的人。 a man of international mystery. 334 00:23:45,470 --> 00:23:48,850 在现实生活中，吉姆是法国外籍军团的前成员 In real life, Jim is a former member of the French Foreign Legion 335 00:23:48,850 --> 00:23:53,870 他后来在哥本哈根成为了一名喷射可卡因贩卖者。 who later went on to become a jet-set cocaine pusher in Copenhagen. 336 00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:57,890 最终，他被抓，并在狱中服刑八年， In the end, he was caught and served eight years in jail, 337 00:23:57,890 --> 00:24:01,190 现在以合法商人的身份工作和生活。 and now works and lives as a legitimate businessman. 338 00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:05,950 在我看来，他是为极端角色扮演量身定做的。 In my mind, he was tailor-made for extreme role-playing. 339 00:24:14,110 --> 00:24:17,530 所以我让鼹鼠邀请亚历杭德罗来挪威奥斯陆 So I had the mole invite Alejandro to come to Oslo in Norway 340 00:24:09,180 --> 00:24:12,730 奥斯陆 2016 挪威 341 00:24:17,530 --> 00:24:19,930 为了与梦中人见面， for meeting with the man of his dreams, 342 00:24:19,930 --> 00:24:23,970 詹姆斯先生，一位衣冠楚楚的斯堪的纳维亚石油亿万富翁。 Mr. James, a dapper Scandinavian oil billionaire. 343 00:24:23,970 --> 00:24:25,150 那你是怎么操作的？ So how did you set it up? 344 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,070 那时，我已经认识詹姆斯五个小时了。 At that moment, I had known James for five hours. 345 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,190 我早上在机场遇到了他，我们... I met him in the airport in the morning, and we... 346 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,510 我们甚至没有在飞机上坐在一起。 We didn't even sit together in the plane. 347 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,830 计划是我应该把亚历杭德罗介绍给詹姆斯- The plan was that I should introduce Alejandro to James, - 348 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,390 -然后把詹姆斯介绍给亚历杭德罗。 - and James to Alejandro. 349 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,400 -然后就坐下来看？-没错。 - And then just sit back and watch? - Yes, exactly. 350 00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:47,090 对朝鲜进行何种投资 What kind of investments into North Korea 351 00:24:47,090 --> 00:24:51,110 亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯会长会为詹姆斯先生出价吗？ would President Alejandro Cao de Benos have on offer for Mr. James? 352 00:25:05,070 --> 00:25:06,110 走 Go. 353 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,910 呼！我希望一切顺利。 Whew! I hope it goes well. 354 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,990 -你习惯了，我不习惯。-当然 - You're used to it, I'm not. - Of course. 355 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,470 呼！我很紧张。 Whew! I'm nervous. 356 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,630 -两秒钟，进来！-嗨，谢谢。 - Two seconds, come in! - Hi, thanks. 357 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,230 我只需要拿这个。 I just need to take this. 358 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,550 -请坐。-好的，谢谢。 - Sit. - OK. Thank you. 359 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,590 很抱歉。好的。很高兴见到你。 Sorry for that. OK. A pleasure to meet you. 360 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,070 谢谢你来。 Thank you for coming. 361 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,030 这是亚历杭德罗，KFA会长。 This is Alejandro, the President of KFA. 362 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,510 我是朝鲜民主主义人民共和国政府的特别领导人- I'm a special lead of the Government of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, - 363 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,670 -负责国际关系 -非常感谢你。 - in charge of international relations. - Thank you very much. 364 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,990 我很想把我的名片给你，但我的行李箱还在吉隆坡... I would have loved to give you my card, but my suitcase is still in Kuala Lumpur... 365 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,670 -但我们会邮寄给你。-没问题。 - But we will send it to you by mail. - No problem. 366 00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:08,370 抱歉，只是想打断一下， Sorry, just to interrupt, 367 00:26:08,370 --> 00:26:11,450 但你为詹姆斯写了什么样的封面故事？ but what sort of cover story had you developed for James? 368 00:26:11,450 --> 00:26:14,170 我的意思是，亚历杭德罗大概会做一些检查 I mean, Alejandro presumably would have done some checking 369 00:26:14,170 --> 00:26:15,750 对詹姆斯的背景。 on the background of James. 370 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,470 我想他真的只是想做成买卖，但他不是... I think he really just wanted things to happen, and he wasn't... 371 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,070 他想给朝鲜人一些东西- He was thinking about having something for the Koreans, - 372 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,630 -使他可以在朝鲜达到更高的水平。 - so he could reach an even higher level in North Korea. 373 00:26:24,740 --> 00:26:27,210 所以他不需要知道这位石油亿万富翁的名字？ So he didn't need to know the name of this oil billionaire? 374 00:26:27,210 --> 00:26:29,950 -不，我刚告诉他他的名字叫詹姆斯。-呵呵！ - No, I just told him his name was James. - Huh! 375 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,830 我为一个投资家族工作。 I work for an investment family. 376 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:40,390 到目前为止，我们的投资一直在石油、天然气、 Until now, our investments have been in oil, gas, 377 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,150 -武器、金属、药品、 - weapons, metal, pharmaceuticals, 378 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,390 -但我们的最低投资是五千万欧元... - but our minimum investment is fifty million Euros... 379 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,550 -五个零？-是的，五个零。 - Five-zero? - Yes, five-zero. 380 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,990 …因为少于这些，利润就不多了。 ...because otherwise, the revenue is not interesting. 381 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:01,710 我和金正恩元帅有联系， I have contacts up to Marshall Kim Jong-un, 382 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,750 -因此，如果有必要，我可以直接向最高权力机构汇报- - so, if necessary, I can report directly to the maximal authority - 383 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,950 -我们伟大的领导人金正恩——在这个国家。 - to our Great Leader Kim Jong-un - in the country. 384 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,310 你可能知道，我们受到联合国非常严厉的制裁- We are under very heavy sanctions, as you may know, from the United Nations, - 385 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,990 -特别是由美国执行的。 - especially enforced by the United States. 386 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,110 所以我们有一个平行的方法来做事情。 So we have a parallel way to do things. 387 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:23,870 我们在中国、东南亚、马来西亚和其他国家设有公司- We have companies in China, Southeast Asia, Malaysia and other countries, - 388 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,310 -用于进行各种交易。 - for making all kinds of transactions. 389 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:32,990 因此，他们在联合国，在电视前遵守制裁，但实际上，他们做相反的事。 So they follow sanctions in the UN, in front of the TV, but in reality, they just look the other way. 390 00:27:33,140 --> 00:27:36,030 他有没有讨论过他要找什么类型的业务？ Did he discuss what types of business he would be looking for? 391 00:27:36,030 --> 00:27:38,430 是 啊，但这并不需要- Yeah. And it didn't take - 392 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,590 -在亚历杭德罗开始谈论这件事之前的几分钟- - many minutes before Alejandro started talking about that - 393 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,150 -他们可以在朝鲜生产任何东西- - they could produce anything in North Korea, - 394 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,630 -他喜欢称之为朝鲜民主主义人民共和国。 - which he likes to call the DPR of Korea, or DPRK. 395 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,990 我们的优势是朝鲜是世界上唯一的国家- Our advantage is that the DPRK is the only country in the world - 396 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,310 -我们不需要遵守任何人的任何规则。 - where we don't need to follow any rules from anyone. 397 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,350 无论你在朝鲜做什么，都与外界无关。 Whatever you do in DPRK, remains in DPRK. 398 00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:03,390 没有人可以触摸你的账户，你的资产... Nobody can touch your accounts, your assets... 399 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,750 即使你被国际刑警组织跟踪，我们甚至不是国际刑警组织的成员。 Even if you are followed by Interpol, we are not even members of Interpol. 400 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,030 所以我们可以做其他国家做不到的事情。 So we can do things that no other country can do. 401 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:17,910 我们正在开发药物行业的产品- We are developing things in the pharmaceutical industry - 402 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,390 -这在世界上任何其他国家都是禁止的。 - which are forbidden in any other country in the world. 403 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,930 加拿大的一家制药公司要求我... A pharmaceutical company in Canada requested me... 404 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,270 …我们在朝鲜生产一些东西。 ...that we produce something in DPRK. 405 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,550 但这种“东西”与甲基苯丙胺基本相同。 But this "something" is basically the same as methamphetamine. 406 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,710 这是供给毒品市场的甲基苯丙胺。 It's methamphetamine, for the drug market. 407 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,030 所以，这些问题... So, the issues that... 408 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,990 他们把合成路线发给了我，我向我们的首都核实了一下- They sent me the formula, and I checked with our capital, - 409 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,830 -当然，我们有足够的知识来实现这一点。 - and of course we have all the knowledge to produce even that. 410 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,390 武器实际上是我们的主要... Weapons is actually our main... 411 00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:01,190 但目前武器问题是一个非常复杂的问题。 But the problem with weapons at the moment is a very complicated subject. 412 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,390 但是，武器！我们可以建造潜艇工厂，坦克工厂... But, weapons! We can build submarine factories, tank factories... 413 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,270 从坦克的第一个螺丝到最后一个螺丝都是朝鲜制造的。 From the first screw of the tank to the last one is made in DPRK. 414 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,430 导弹。全部由朝鲜制造。我们向伊朗出售导弹。 Missiles. All made in DPRK. We sell our missiles to Iran. 415 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,870 伊朗没有我们的技术。 Iran doesn't have our technology. 416 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,470 伊朗只有中程导弹。 Iran only has medium-range missiles. 417 00:29:20,740 --> 00:29:24,950 我们有洲际弹道导弹，可以到达世界任何地方。所以 We have intercontinental ballistic missiles that can reach any part of the world. So... 418 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:29,910 好的，好的。我们肯定要……我只是在做笔记。 OK, OK. That one we definitely have to... I'm just taking notes. 419 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,550 我可以为你与我们任何一家国有公司直接接触提供方便- I can facilitate you direct contacts with any kind of our state companies, - 420 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,510 -或朝鲜任何部门或部委。 - or any department or ministry in the country. 421 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,310 这对我来说没问题。任何时候，我都可以签发签证。 This is no problem for me. Anytime, I can issue the visas. 422 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,550 我可以与我们所有的部长一起在各个层面做好准备。 I can prepare at all levels, with all our ministers. 423 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,350 所以，通过我，你现在与这个国家有了直接联系。 So, through me, you are now in direct contact with the country. 424 00:29:48,390 --> 00:29:51,250 在奥斯陆会见亚历杭德罗·曹德贝诺斯会长 Meeting with President Alejandro Cao de Benos in Oslo 425 00:29:51,250 --> 00:29:54,970 使我对朝鲜友好协会有了全新的看法 gave a whole new perspective on the Korean Friendship Association 426 00:29:54,970 --> 00:29:58,810 因为，从官方来看，KFA是一个和平组织 because, officially, the KFA is a peaceful organisation 427 00:29:58,810 --> 00:30:02,610 致力于促进朝鲜文化、历史和价值观 which works to promote North Korean culture, history and values 428 00:30:02,610 --> 00:30:05,340 通过其在三十多个不同国家的成员... through its members in more than 30 different countries... 429 00:30:07,790 --> 00:30:11,050 包括所有斯堪的纳维亚国家的官方代表， including the official delegate for all of Scandinavia, 430 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,620 鼹鼠。 the mole. 431 00:30:13,630 --> 00:30:15,530 KFA真的参与其中了吗 Was the KFA really being used 432 00:30:15,530 --> 00:30:19,170 作为处理朝鲜武器和毒品的前线， as a front for dealing with weapons and drugs from North Korea, 433 00:30:19,170 --> 00:30:22,410 把亚历杭德罗当成蜘蛛网？ with Alejandro as the spider in the web? 434 00:30:22,410 --> 00:30:26,610 或者是亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯瞄准了 Or was Alejandro Cao de Benos playing us in order to get to 435 00:30:26,610 --> 00:30:29,050 詹姆斯先生的腰包？ the deep pockets of Mr. James? 436 00:30:29,050 --> 00:30:31,090 亚历杭德罗到底是谁？ And who was Alejandro really? 437 00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:34,930 是一个滑稽的吹牛家，扮演一个有用的白痴 Simply a buffoonish braggart acting as a useful idiot 438 00:30:34,930 --> 00:30:36,970 为了平壤政权？ for the regime in Pyongyang? 439 00:30:36,970 --> 00:30:39,810 还是一个手眼通天和老练的 Or was he a highly connected and sophisticated 440 00:30:39,810 --> 00:30:41,670 国际罪犯？ international criminal? 441 00:30:45,150 --> 00:30:49,090 终于，鼹鼠找到了他的真正使命和目的。 At last, the mole had found his real mission and true purpose. 442 00:30:49,090 --> 00:30:51,610 跟随亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯 Follow the lead of Alejandro Cao de Benos 443 00:30:51,610 --> 00:30:53,230 看看他会把我们带到哪里。 and see where it takes us. 444 00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:58,590 那么，这次会议之后发生了什么？ So, what happened after this meeting? 445 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,190 亚历杭德罗回到西班牙后被捕。 When Alejandro came back to Spain, he was arrested. 446 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,390 -好吗？-武器交易。 - OK? - For arms dealing. 447 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:10,630 这就是亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯在法庭前对我们的问题的反应。 This is how Alejandro Cao de Benos reacted to our questions in front of the courthouse. 448 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,950 他昨天在塔拉戈纳警方打击武器贩运的行动中被捕。 He was arrested yesterday in Tarragona in a police operation against arms trafficking. 449 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,750 我不与媒体对话。 I don't talk to the media. 450 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,430 为什么？ Why? 451 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,950 因为你是一群诽谤者。 Because you're a bunch of slanderers. 452 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,710 这是假的！完全是假的！ This is fake! Totally fake! 453 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,070 你是一群诽谤者！这完全是假的！ You're a bunch of slanderers! This is totally fake! 454 00:31:26,150 --> 00:31:31,160 都柏林 2014 爱尔兰 455 00:31:34,810 --> 00:31:38,110 有史以来第一次，KFA勇敢的战士们 For the first time ever, the brave soldiers of the KFA 456 00:31:38,130 --> 00:31:41,330 在没有会长的情况下召开年会。 would have their annual meeting without their president. 457 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,580 这是鼹鼠晋升的绝佳机会。 A perfect chance for the mole to rise in the ranks. 458 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,910 我欢迎大家参加2016年国际KFA大会。 I'd like to welcome you all to the 2016 International KFA Conference. 459 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,590 多年来，我们的组织遭到反动派的猛烈攻击。 Over the years, our organization has been viciously attacked by reactionaries. 460 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,150 今年最严重的袭击是针对我们的会长亚历杭德罗。 This year's worst attack is towards our president, Alejandro. 461 00:31:58,990 --> 00:32:01,980 西班牙法西斯当局不让他离开这个国家- The Spanish fascist authorities are not letting him leave the country, - 462 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,230 -限制其行动自由，以及- - restricting his freedom of movement, and - 463 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,430 -指控他犯了一项他没有犯的罪行。 - accusing him of a crime he had not committed. 464 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,510 也许有一天，他们会明白我们是对的，他们是错的。 Maybe one day, they will understand that we are right, and that they are wrong. 465 00:32:11,540 --> 00:32:13,810 但在那之前，同志们，继续做好我们的事业。 But until then, keep on with the good job, comrades. 466 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,830 非常感谢。 Thank you. 467 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,230 如果不是亚历杭德罗同志，我今天不会站在这里。 If it was not for comrade Alejandro, I would not be standing here today. 468 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,030 我依靠他不断地相信我，支持我，指导我。 I count on him for constantly believing in me, supporting me and guiding me. 469 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,190 在未来，我预见到更多的西方人，就像我一样- In the future, I foresee more people of the West, just like me, - 470 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,830 -会意识到他们生活在一个破碎而邪恶的系统中。 - will realize that they live inside a broken and evil system. 471 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,470 所以他们会睁开眼睛，看到我所看到的- And so they will open their eyes, and see what I see, - 472 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,830 -一个可以实现的梦想。 - a dream which can come true. 473 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,550 我们的最高将军金正恩万岁！ Long live our Supreme General Kim Jong-un! 474 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,710 统一朝鲜！非常感谢你。 Korea is one! Thank you very much. 475 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,310 统一朝鲜！ Korea is one! 476 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,270 -喂？-你好，亚历杭德罗，我是乌尔里克。 - Hello? - Hello, Alejandro, it's Ulrich. 477 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,790 无论我能做什么来帮助你和KFA，只要告诉我，我就会在那里。 Whatever I can do to help you and KFA, just let me know, and I'll be there. 478 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,630 非常感谢。我信任你。 Thank you. I trust you. 479 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,310 你所有的工作和活动。 All your work and your activities. 480 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,510 当然，不仅是我，我在平壤的战友们- Not only me, of course, my comrades in Pyongyang, - 481 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,350 -他们知道我们没有很多像你这样亲密的朋友。 - they know we don't have many very close friends like you. 482 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,590 只有少数人是这个国家真正的密友。 There are only a few which are really close friends of the country. 483 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,190 我也有同感。我爱KFA的所有人。 I feel the same. I love you all in the KFA. 484 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,850 马德里 2016 西班牙 485 00:33:40,590 --> 00:33:43,810 接下来，鼹鼠和詹姆斯先生去了西班牙的马德里 Next, the mole and Mr. James went to Madrid in Spain 486 00:33:43,810 --> 00:33:46,510 与亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯会面。 to meet with Alejandro Cao de Benos. 487 00:33:48,350 --> 00:33:52,450 通过我，詹姆斯先生准备好了朝鲜武器的订单 Through me, Mr. James had an order ready for North Korean weapons 488 00:33:52,450 --> 00:33:54,590 以及甲基苯丙胺。 as well as methamphetamine. 489 00:33:59,150 --> 00:34:01,850 朝鲜友好协会会长 Would the president of the Korean Friendship Association 490 00:34:01,850 --> 00:34:03,290 是否会同意进行贸易， be open for business, 491 00:34:03,290 --> 00:34:06,270 现在他因贩卖武器而被调查。 now that he was being investigated for arms trafficking. 492 00:34:08,580 --> 00:34:09,830 好的，很好 OK, good 493 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,910 乌尔里克同志！ Comrade Ulrich! 494 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,790 我能看见你。你好 I can see you. Hello! 495 00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:28,030 所以，亚历杭德罗完全信任詹姆斯，根据你的引荐？ So, Alejandro took James entirely on trust, on your recommendation? 496 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,710 我们需要写一个我如何认识詹姆斯的故事。 We needed to put up a story of how I know James. 497 00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:33,470 那是什么故事？ And what was that story? 498 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,150 我受过厨师的教育，而且... I'm educated as a chef, and... 499 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,950 ……我一直在为詹姆斯的朋友做饭。 ...I've been making food for some people where James was attending. 500 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,710 他只是问我能不能给他做饭，因为他有很多派对... And he just asked me if I could cook for him, because he has a lot of parties... 501 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,470 所以很容易进入这个圈子。 So it was quite easy to get into that. 502 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,990 他总是很忙。 He's always busy. 503 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,430 我很久没见到他了，只有简短的电话、电子邮件... I haven't seen him in a long time, only short telephone calls, e-mails... 504 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,870 他没有回答。 He doesn't reply. 505 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,510 -嘿，我的朋友！-又见面了！ - Hey, my friend! - Once again. 506 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,870 很高兴见到你！ Good to see you! 507 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,310 请坐 Sit down. 508 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,390 来自不同国家的不同秘密机构一直关注着我。 I'm continuously followed by different secret services from different countries. 509 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:17,630 所以他们扣留了我的护照。 So they retained my passport. 510 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,190 法官的判决是我不能离开西班牙领土。 The order of the judge is that I cannot leave Spanish territory. 511 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,030 因为我有武器，所以家里有机枪和手枪。 Because I had weapons, I had machine-guns and guns at home. 512 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,190 我一直喜欢各种武器。 And I always liked all kind of weapons. 513 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,390 谁不是？！ Who doesn't?! 514 00:35:34,550 --> 00:35:36,970 -所以，在马德里的这个会议上…-是 啊 - So, at this meeting in Madrid... - Yeah? 515 00:35:36,970 --> 00:35:40,370 ……詹姆斯对他为什么想要、为什么感兴趣有什么想法吗 ...Does James give any ideas about why he wants, why he's interested 516 00:35:40,370 --> 00:35:42,030 购买这种物资？ in buying this sort of materiel? 517 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,910 他喜欢把武器卖给以色列的敌人- Well, he likes to sell the weapons to the enemy of Israel, - 518 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,230 -这让亚历杭德罗非常高兴。 - which makes Alejandro quite happy. 519 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,830 基本上，这是我们感兴趣的武器。 Basically, it's the weapons we are interested in. 520 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,550 打以色列是说“操你妈，美国”的一种方式 Hitting Israel is a way to say "Fuck you, USA" 521 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,970 我们需要直接和合适的人坐下来。 We need to sit down with the right people straight away. 522 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:06,870 我们的军队经常向政府出售成品技术。 Our army are used to sell finished technology to governments. 523 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,110 因此，谈判出售任何东西都会很复杂- So it's going to be complicated to negotiate the sale of whatever; - 524 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,910 -短程或中程导弹。 - short or medium range missiles, with a private person. 525 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,390 但是 But... 526 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,670 谈论化学和您需要的原料... Talking about chemistry and components that you need... 527 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,110 ……这更容易。因为 ...that's easier. Because... 528 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:28,510 ……我们为您提供“租用”的技术和专家- ...we are kind of providing you with technology and experts that you "rent", - 529 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,910 -但我们不卖成品。 - but we are not selling the finished product. 530 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:32,830 啊，好的。 Ah, OK. 531 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,750 所以，好吧，这对我来说很好。 So, OK, that's fine for me. 532 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:40,830 我可以保证你会和合适的人会面- I can guarantee that you will have the meetings with the right people, - 533 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:46,750 -并且有可能将这些“科学家”带到海外。 - and that it is possible to bring those "scientists" overseas. 534 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,910 但是，当然，谈判条件是你必须安排的。 But, of course, the terms of negotiations is something you would have to arrange. 535 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,470 但实际上，我最亲密的同志会接待你的。 But actually, you will be received by my closest comrade. 536 00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,150 他知道你要讨论什么。 And he knows what you are going to be discussing. 537 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,710 他也认识他，乌尔里克同志，因为他是姜俊珠。 He knows him also, comrade Ulrich, because he is Kang Jum-ju. 538 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,390 姜俊珠先生会在机场等你并安排一切- Mr. Kang Jum-ju will be waiting for you in the airport and arrange everything, - 539 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,030 -与合适的人交谈。 - to talk with the right people. 540 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,840 从现在开始- From now on - 541 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,510 -我们如履薄冰。 - we are on thin ice. 542 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,830 -我们必须非常小心。-对 - We have to be very careful. - Yes. 543 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,830 但是，这意味着... But, that said... 544 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,910 ……有很多钱可以赚。 ...there's lot of money to be made. 545 00:37:22,030 --> 00:37:24,160 -现在，他被困在西班牙--是的。 - At this point, he's stuck in Spain-- - Yeah. 546 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,410 …出于法律原因。 ...for legal reasons. 547 00:37:25,410 --> 00:37:28,140 但他可以安排你和詹姆斯一起去朝鲜。 But he can organise your trip with James to North Korea. 548 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:33,750 我们于2017年1月同意前往朝鲜。 We agreed to go to North Korea in January 2017. 549 00:37:35,790 --> 00:37:37,850 前往朝鲜执行秘密任务 Going on a secret mission to North Korea 550 00:37:37,850 --> 00:37:40,330 需要仔细规划， calls for careful planning, 551 00:37:40,330 --> 00:37:44,290 所以我第一次亲自会见鼹鼠和詹姆斯先生， so I had my first in-person meeting with the mole and Mr. James together, 552 00:37:44,290 --> 00:37:46,690 确保詹姆斯先生 making sure that Mr. James especially 553 00:37:46,690 --> 00:37:49,430 知道游戏中最重要的规则。 knew the most important rules of the game. 554 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:55,550 让我们从平常的层面开始，但礼物很重要。 Let's start on a banal level, but gifts are important. 555 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,790 在朝鲜最好的礼物之一是轩尼诗干邑白兰地。 And one of the best gifts in North Korea is Hennessy Cognac. 556 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,070 每个人至少要送一瓶。 You should at least bring one bottle each. 557 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:09,030 另一件重要的事情是：永远不要取笑- Another important thing is: Never to make fun of - 558 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,390 -伟大领袖，亲爱领袖，年轻的将军。 - The Great Leader, The Dear Leader, The Young General. 559 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,630 千万不要取笑金家的任何人。 Never make fun of any of the Kims. 560 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,670 你会觉得自己想说一句有趣的话。 You will be in situations where you feel like making a funny remark. 561 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,950 -不要那样。-好啊 - Don't go there. - OK. 562 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:28,430 他们的文化中渗透着武力与酒精。 It's a very militarized culture, and it's a very alcoholized culture. 563 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,830 世界上几乎没有一个国家能像朝鲜那样饮酒。 There is hardly a country in the world where they drink as much as in North Korea. 564 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,590 如果你是一个酒品不好的人，一个喝醉后失去控制的人- If you're a bad drinker:，someone who loses control when drunk, - 565 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,630 -那么你不应该去朝鲜。 - then you shouldn't go to North Korea. 566 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:49,790 永远不要使用隐藏的摄像头，也不要试图做任何隐密的事情。 Never use hidden camera or be tempted to do anything in secret. 567 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:58,430 你越不想引起结果，效果越好。他们来找你的次数越多，就越好。 The less you try to provoke results, the better. The more they come to you, the better. 568 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,230 我不是买的人，他们才是卖的人。 I'm not the one buying, they are the ones selling. 569 00:39:02,260 --> 00:39:03,330 当然 Exactly. 570 00:39:12,910 --> 00:39:15,130 -嗨，吉姆。我是安妮。-很高兴见到你。 - Hi, Jim. I'm Annie. - Pleasure to meet you. 571 00:39:15,130 --> 00:39:16,910 很高兴见到你。 Lovely to meet you, too. 572 00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:20,730 如果我们能让回答尽可能简短 If we can keep the answers as brief as possible 573 00:39:20,730 --> 00:39:23,000 并且尽可能精确，那就太好了。 and as precise as possible, that would be appreciated. 574 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,030 当然 Sure. 575 00:39:24,790 --> 00:39:27,990 那么，您对此时可能的风险有何看法？ So, what was your perception of the possible risk at this point? 576 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,150 是的，我是说... Yeah, I mean... 577 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,390 作为一名有前科的人，你不会把风险计算得那么高... As a former criminal, you don't calculate with risk that high... 578 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,670 和 And... 579 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:50,070 我想我其实更担心乌尔里克而不是我自己，因为- I think I actually was more worried for Ulrich than for myself, because - 580 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,830 -他以一种与我不同的方式参与——或正在参与——- - he was involved - or is involved - in another way than I was; - 581 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,670 -我被聘为演员。 -1 was hired in as an actor. 582 00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:02,890 我也担心鼹鼠。 I was also worried for the mole. 583 00:40:02,890 --> 00:40:04,930 詹姆斯先生曾在这一地区工作过。 Mr. James had been around the block. 584 00:40:04,930 --> 00:40:06,730 他可以自食其力。 He could fend for himself. 585 00:40:06,730 --> 00:40:08,370 但是鼹鼠呢？ But what about the mole? 586 00:40:08,370 --> 00:40:10,540 他只是个退休厨师。 He was just a retired chef. 587 00:40:11,630 --> 00:40:14,770 华盛顿 2016 美国 588 00:40:17,870 --> 00:40:21,330 所以，我带他去拜访了一位可以给他上速成课的老师 So, I took him to see a teacher who could give him a crash course 589 00:40:21,330 --> 00:40:24,970 在间谍中被称为“谍报技术 ”。 in what is known as "tradecraft" among spies. 590 00:40:24,970 --> 00:40:27,090 简而言之，我带他去见麦克斯， In short, I took him to see Max, 591 00:40:27,090 --> 00:40:29,310 前中情局特工。 a former CIA agent. 592 00:40:33,590 --> 00:40:35,910 如果他犯了错误，他会发现自己 If he makes a mistake, he could find himself 593 00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:41,310 与喷灯一起被绑在市中心 tied up in the centre of town with a blowtorch 594 00:40:42,310 --> 00:40:46,210 告诉其他人做这件事的下场。 as an example for nobody else to do that. 595 00:40:46,210 --> 00:40:48,210 所以 So... 596 00:40:48,210 --> 00:40:50,490 但为什么要把内鬼的身份和秘密 But why trust a former CIA agent 597 00:40:50,490 --> 00:40:54,830 告诉一个前中情局特工呢？这是个好问题。 with the identity and secrets of the mole? It's a good question. 598 00:40:58,390 --> 00:41:01,530 麦克斯被中央情报局开除了 Max had been fired from the Central Intelligence Agency 599 00:41:01,530 --> 00:41:04,650 并且在组织中的信誉也不好了， and was not in good standing with the company any more, 600 00:41:04,650 --> 00:41:07,010 这使得信任他更安全。 which made it safer to trust him. 601 00:41:07,010 --> 00:41:08,490 我要杀了你。 I'm going to kill you. 602 00:41:08,490 --> 00:41:10,370 为什么？ Why? 603 00:41:10,370 --> 00:41:11,530 好的，是的。 Okay, yep. 604 00:41:11,530 --> 00:41:15,370 不管怎样，我需要一个能教鼹鼠诀窍的人 Anyway, I was in need of someone who could teach the mole the ropes 605 00:41:15,370 --> 00:41:17,450 在他返回朝鲜之前。 before he returned to North Korea. 606 00:41:17,450 --> 00:41:18,770 如果有人拿枪指着你， If somebody's holding a gun on you, 607 00:41:18,770 --> 00:41:21,370 你不会指望他们把它拿走。 you're not going to expect them to-- take it away. 608 00:41:21,370 --> 00:41:25,410 好吧你要找的只是一个瞬间的优势。 All right? All you're looking for is a split-second edge. 609 00:41:25,410 --> 00:41:28,050 此外，俗话说， And besides, as the saying goes, 610 00:41:28,050 --> 00:41:30,410 如今，你能相信谁？ who can you trust these days? 611 00:41:30,410 --> 00:41:32,090 观察技能。 Observation skills. 612 00:41:32,090 --> 00:41:34,410 -正如我所说，常见的就是常见…-是 啊 - What I say, what's common is common... - Yeah. 613 00:41:34,410 --> 00:41:36,930 …不常见的就是不常见。 ...and what ain't, ain't. 614 00:41:36,930 --> 00:41:40,090 这意味着如果这是常见的，这是该地区的常见情况， That means if it's common, that's usual for the area, 615 00:41:40,090 --> 00:41:41,530 好吧，这很正常。 Okay, that's normal. 616 00:41:41,530 --> 00:41:45,210 如果有什么异常的地方，它是有原因的， If something stands out, it stands out for a reason, 617 00:41:45,210 --> 00:41:48,730 所以你必须注意你周围的环境。 so you've got to be aware of your surroundings. 618 00:41:48,730 --> 00:41:51,290 你不妨把手机给他们，然后说：， You might as well give them your phone and say, 619 00:41:51,290 --> 00:41:56,810 “这里，看看它，”因为现在就是这么简单。 "Here, look at it," because that's how easy it is nowadays. 620 00:41:56,810 --> 00:41:59,370 你必须假设他们可以阅读你的所有信息。 You have to assume they can read all of your messages. 621 00:41:59,370 --> 00:42:02,370 所以，当他们查看你的电子邮件帐户时， So, when they look at your emails accounts, 622 00:42:02,370 --> 00:42:04,930 他们的手伸得很远很远很远很远。 they can go way, way, way, way, way back. 623 00:42:04,930 --> 00:42:07,890 他们会觉得你背叛了他们。 They're going to feel like you betrayed them. 624 00:42:07,890 --> 00:42:11,610 你真的不相信…社会主义或共产主义。 You didn't really believe in... in socialism or communism. 625 00:42:11,610 --> 00:42:13,930 你真的不相信朝鲜是一个可以去的地方。 You didn't really believe in North Korea as a place to go. 626 00:42:13,930 --> 00:42:15,610 你真的不相信。 You didn't really believe in it. 627 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,090 那只是你是个间谍。 That was all just-- You were a mole. 628 00:42:23,910 --> 00:42:26,170 小心他们给你设的陷阱。 Be careful that they don't set a trap for you. 629 00:42:26,170 --> 00:42:28,810 所以，当他们走出房间并留下文件时， So, like, when they walk out of the room and leave papers, 630 00:42:28,810 --> 00:42:31,130 不要碰它们，不要靠近它们。 don't touch them, don't go near them. 631 00:42:31,130 --> 00:42:34,210 然后，他们可以说，“哦，我们知道他会经历这些。” Then, they can say, "Oh, we knew he was going to go through these." 632 00:42:34,210 --> 00:42:38,170 你不在乎这些。想都别想乱来。 You don't care about those. Don't even think about messing with that. 633 00:42:38,170 --> 00:42:40,970 我告诉你，你是我的英雄，做这件事。 I tell you what, you are a hero of mine doing this. 634 00:42:40,970 --> 00:42:42,300 这很危险。 It's very dangerous. 635 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,770 -所以，这是真正的交易。-是 啊 - So, this is the real deal. - Yeah. 636 00:42:44,770 --> 00:42:46,210 -一路平安。-谢谢你，麦克斯。 - Safe journey. - Thank you, Max. 637 00:42:46,210 --> 00:42:47,800 -祝你好运。-非常感谢。再见 - Godspeed. - Thank you. Bye. 638 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:48,810 再见。 Bye now. 639 00:43:01,390 --> 00:43:04,010 就在这些焦虑之中， Right in the middle of these anxieties, 640 00:43:04,010 --> 00:43:07,250 一名美国大学生在朝鲜被捕 an American university student was arrested in North Korea 641 00:43:07,250 --> 00:43:09,450 被判劳役 was sentenced to hard labour 642 00:43:09,450 --> 00:43:12,650 因为偷了宣传海报。沃姆比尔-- for stealing a propaganda poster. The Warmbier-- 643 00:43:12,650 --> 00:43:14,690 他的罪行只是偷了一张海报 His crime was simply stealing a poster 644 00:43:14,690 --> 00:43:16,630 他在平壤的酒店里。 from his hotel in Pyongyang. 645 00:43:18,030 --> 00:43:20,410 又一个美国人站在了风口浪尖， Another American front and centre 646 00:43:20,410 --> 00:43:22,790 在平壤的宣传游行中。 in Pyongyang's propaganda parade. 647 00:43:23,650 --> 00:43:31,400 {\an8}我真诚乞求朝鲜人民和政府的宽恕 648 00:43:32,750 --> 00:43:36,400 {\an8}拜托，我犯了我一生中最严重的错误 649 00:43:36,430 --> 00:43:37,890 奥托·弗雷德里克·沃姆比尔， Otto Frederick Warmbier, 650 00:43:37,890 --> 00:43:40,170 弗吉尼亚大学商业专业， a University of Virginia business major, 651 00:43:40,170 --> 00:43:42,500 做出戏剧性的、情绪化的忏悔。 making a dramatic, emotional confession. 652 00:43:44,010 --> 00:43:48,500 {\an8}如果祂在那里，请救救这个可怜无辜的替罪羊 653 00:43:48,530 --> 00:43:50,800 {\an8}拜托，请想想我的家人。 654 00:43:50,830 --> 00:43:53,110 沃姆比尔的父母今天发表声明-- Warmbier's parents issued a statement today-- 655 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,810 平壤 2017 朝鲜 656 00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:09,480 康先生 李先生 詹姆斯先生 文化事务部部长 文化事务部 石油亿万富翁 657 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,550 -不要给士兵拍照。-好啊 - Don't take pictures of the soldiers. - OK. 658 00:44:31,390 --> 00:44:33,990 那么，你能告诉我你到那里时发生了什么吗？ So, can you tell me what happened when you got there? 659 00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:37,870 我们降落在平壤一个崭新的机场。 We were landing in a brand new airport in Pyongyang. 660 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,630 离飞机三步远，我们被丢在一边- Three steps out of the flight, we were put aside, - 661 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,470 -因为我有相机。 - because I had the camera. 662 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:49,550 因为有摄像头，警官不得不打电话给更高级别的警官- Because of the camera, the officer had to call a higher-ranking officer, - 663 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,790 -检查一下。 - to check that out. 664 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,750 当我们在那里着陆时- When we landed there, - 665 00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:55,830 -两名政府官员来了- - two government officials came, - 666 00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:58,910 -把我的手提箱从桌子上拿下来... - took my suitcase off the table... 667 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:00,910 我们四处奔波- We went all the way around, - 668 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,990 -他们把我放在贵宾休息室- - and they put me in the VIP lounge, - 669 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,190 -当重要人物旅行时会坐在那里。 - where the Main Man himself sits when he travels. 670 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,630 然后，我们等了五分钟，姜说：“你戴上奖牌了吗？” And then, we'd been waiting five minutes, Kang said: "Do you have your medal on?" 671 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:13,830 “给他看。” "Show him." 672 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,470 -是他吗？-那是姜先生。 - Is that him? - That is Mr. Kang. 673 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,070 我脱下夹克，他走了... I was taking off my jacket, and he went... 674 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,910 “对不起！请！欢迎来到朝鲜！” "Sorry! Please! Welcome to North Korea!" 675 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,710 我带着所有的设备，没有任何检查，直接走了出去- And I took all my equipment, without any check, and walked straight out - 676 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,670 -一辆奔驰等着接我们。 - for a Mercedes Benz waiting to pick us up. 677 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,790 第一天晚上，我们喝了很多酒，吃了一顿丰盛的晚餐。 The first evening we had a great dinner with a lot of alcohol. 678 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,270 茄子！ Cheese! 679 00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:09,150 我比詹姆斯早到我的房间，然后姜来到我的房间问我： I went up to my room earlier than James, and Kang then came to my room and asked me: 680 00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:14,950 “你确定这个人有他说的所有财产吗？” "Are you sure that this man has all the money that he's talking about?" 681 00:47:24,990 --> 00:47:28,180 那么，一旦你到了那里，交易进展如何？ So, how did the deal progress once you were there? 682 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:35,870 嗯，一开始是观光，看房子和商业中心... Well, in the beginning, it was sightseeing, looking at houses and business centers... 683 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,510 姜？你能告诉我我们要去哪里吗？ Kang? Could you tell shortly where we are going? 684 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,870 现在我们要参观一个科技馆- Now we are going to visit a science and technology complex - 685 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,870 -它于去年落成。 - which was inaugurated last year. 686 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,630 我必须说，在这一点上- I must say, at this point, - 687 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,550 -我没有看到任何接近我被承诺的东西。 - I didn't see anything close to everything I was promised. 688 00:48:47,150 --> 00:48:51,090 那么，我们称之为求爱期，持续了多久？ So how long did this, shall we call it a courtship period, last? 689 00:48:51,090 --> 00:48:53,950 两天。然后它开始变得严肃起来。 Two days. Then it started getting serious. 690 00:48:51,330 --> 00:48:53,910 两天。可以 Two days. Okay. 691 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,070 突然，第三天早上，我们被接走了。 Suddenly, the third morning, we got picked up. 692 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,830 我们互相看着对方：“这是又一次观光，还是什么？” We were looking at each other: "Is this another sightseeing, or what?" 693 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,590 当我们在车里时，他说我们要去见一些人- When we are in the car, he says we're going to meet some people - 694 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,630 -这能帮你解决问题。 - that can sort you out. 695 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:25,470 在朝鲜的所有时间里，我们一直在市中心开车。 All the time we've been in North Korea, we've been driving downtown. 696 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:31,190 现在我们开出了城，然后突然左转。 Now we're starting driving outside town, and then, suddenly, we take a left turn. 697 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,030 现在我们不是在你想让游客参观的地方。 And now we're not in a place you want to show tourists. 698 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:45,430 他们把我们带出了平壤，进入了一个贫民窟。 And they drove us outside of Pyongyang, into a slum area. 699 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,550 之后司机停车了。 So the driver parks. 700 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,550 我想：“这看起来不太对，但……” And I'm like: "This doesn't seem right, but..." 701 00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,390 我的意思是：“没有地方能逃跑，所以集中注意力！” I mean: "Nowhere to run, so just focus!" 702 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,550 他们要我们去地下室。 And they wanted us to go down into a basement. 703 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,390 我们走下这些楼梯，真是令人毛骨悚然。 We walked down these stairs, and it was really creepy. 704 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:20,310 但随后，一扇大门打开了，我们走进了这个豪华的会议室... But then, a big door opened, and we came into this luxury conference room... 705 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,430 …有一张大桌子，很多食物和... ...with a big table, a lot of food and... 706 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,430 突然，我们来到了一家非常非常好的餐厅。 And suddenly, we are in a really, really nice restaurant. 707 00:50:28,740 --> 00:50:32,450 -在地下室里，在一个破败的房子里 -是 啊 - Under a basement, in a rotting house. - Yeah. 708 00:50:32,450 --> 00:50:34,270 你吓坏了吗？ Were you frightened? 709 00:50:34,270 --> 00:50:35,950 -我尽量不害怕。 -1 try not to be. 710 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:50,430 然后我们发现我们和军工厂的厂长坐在一起。 Then we found out we were sitting together with the president from the arms factory. 711 00:50:52,790 --> 00:50:55,030 这是拍这张照片的时候吗？ Is this when this photograph was taken? 712 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,190 -是的。 -Yes. 713 00:50:57,230 --> 00:50:59,260 那么，你能告诉我谁是谁吗？ So, can you tell me who is who? 714 00:50:59,260 --> 00:51:04,150 这是军工厂的厂长。 This is the president of the arms factory. 715 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,550 这位是情报官员。 This one is the intelligence officer. 716 00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:14,190 他的英语真的很好。 His English was really good. 717 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,190 他的问题与其他人绝对的不同- His questions were definitely different from the others', - 718 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,110 -他开始审问我。 - and he kind of started to interrogate me. 719 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,790 当时我必须想出一个公司名称- And it was at that time I had to come up with a company name, - 720 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,430 -因为当时我们没有公司名称。 - because we did not have a company name at that time. 721 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,310 所以他说：“你的公司叫什么？” So he said: "What's your company name?" 722 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,270 所以我说：“负责这件事的人”- So I said: "The one who's taking care of this" - 723 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,670 -“是塔加集团。” - "is Taga Group." 724 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,670 我想：“请记住这个名字！” And I was like: "Please remember that name!" 725 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,150 然后有一个我们称之为“石头脸”。 Then there was one we referred to as "Stoneface". 726 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,070 然后，他们拿出了武器系统的目录，让我们大吃一惊。 Then they surprised us by taking out the catalogue of their weapon systems. 727 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,030 我说：“好的！” And I was like: "OK!" 728 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,150 他们给了我照片... They gave me pictures... 729 00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:07,030 …并说：“这就是我们可以为你解决的问题。。” ...and said: "This is what we can sort you out with." 730 00:52:07,030 --> 00:52:08,770 -像菜单吗？-是 啊 - Like a sort of menu? - Yeah. 731 00:52:08,780 --> 00:52:09,930 可以 Okay. 732 00:52:09,940 --> 00:52:12,270 我们在谈论什么样的武器？ And what sort of weapons are we talking about? 733 00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:14,830 各种武器。 All kinds of weapons. 734 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,750 导弹...非常大的导弹。 Missiles... Really big missiles. 735 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,350 坦克... Tanks... 736 00:52:21,870 --> 00:52:23,370 所以这一切都提供了吗？ So this is all on offer? 737 00:52:23,370 --> 00:52:27,850 是的，这就是我们刚刚放在桌上的东西。 Yeah, this is what we were just handed over the table. 738 00:52:27,850 --> 00:52:31,330 -哇！所以我们有飞毛腿导弹？-是 啊 - Wow! So we've got Scud missiles? - Yeah. 739 00:52:31,330 --> 00:52:35,930 所以，你可以花一千四百万美元买五枚飞毛腿导弹。 So, you can get five Scud missiles for $14 million. 740 00:52:35,930 --> 00:52:37,670 -导弹发射车。-是 啊 - Missile launchers. - Yeah. 741 00:52:40,460 --> 00:52:42,910 因此，我们现在正准备使用飞毛腿-E导弹。 So we're going up to Scud-E missiles now. 742 00:52:42,910 --> 00:52:44,700 天哪两千五百万美元。 Good God! $25 million. 743 00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:47,350 -一千三百五十公里的射程... - 1350 km range... 744 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,870 ……实际上是从朝鲜到日本。 ...that's practically from North Korea to Japan. 745 00:52:47,390 --> 00:52:48,550 是 啊 Yeah. 746 00:52:50,630 --> 00:52:54,770 这是一个高爆弹头，这是温压弹。哦！ And that's a high explosive warhead, and that's thermobaric. Oof! 747 00:52:54,770 --> 00:52:57,160 我的意思是，这是你能得到的最接近核弹的东西了 I mean, that's as close as you can get to a nuke 748 00:52:57,470 --> 00:52:58,790 除了核武器。 without it being a nuke. 749 00:52:59,950 --> 00:53:01,350 这是什么？ What's this? 750 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,550 这是詹姆斯的协议... This is the agreement between James... 751 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,060 …和纳雷。 ...and Narae. 752 00:53:07,070 --> 00:53:08,990 -军工厂？-是 啊 - The arms factory? - Yeah. 753 00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:13,390 -都被签名和盖章了。-对 - All signed and sealed, as well. - Yes. 754 00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:19,890 乌尔里克在这次会议上做了什么 And what was Ulrich doing during this meeting 755 00:53:19,890 --> 00:53:21,630 当你签合同的时候？ when you were signing contracts? 756 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,310 他在拍摄。 He was filming. 757 00:53:23,790 --> 00:53:25,110 他被允许拍摄视频？！ He was allowed to film?! 758 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,310 -有趣的部分来了，因为- - This is the funny part, because - 759 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:35,150 -乌尔里希的立场非常好，他们只是认为他在拍摄宣传片。 - Ulrich's position is so good that they just thought he filmed for propaganda videos. 760 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,150 -我也应该签朝文的吗？-对 - Should I sign the Korean one as well? - Yes. 761 00:53:41,150 --> 00:53:42,590 签在哪里？ And where is that? 762 00:53:47,710 --> 00:53:51,250 现在，你在朝鲜的一个秘密地堡里， At this point, you're in a secret underground lair in North Korea, 763 00:53:51,250 --> 00:53:55,250 促进武器合同的签署。 facilitating the signature of a weapons contract. 764 00:53:55,250 --> 00:53:57,470 在这个阶段你脑子里想的是什么？ What is going through your head at this stage? 765 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,510 很多事情。首先- Many things. First of all, - 766 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,320 -七年来，我几乎一直在向我妻子撒谎。 - I've been practically lying for my wife for seven years. 767 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,030 所以…我在想这个。 So... I was thinking about that. 768 00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:28,350 亚历杭德罗知道这一切吗？ And Alejandro is aware of all of this? 769 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,750 -他知道一切。 - He's aware of everything. 770 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:36,910 我很快就会去西班牙看望亚历杭德罗同志，并给他一份详细的报告- I will soon go to Spain to visit comrade Alejandro, and give him a detailed report - 771 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,750 -我们今天在这里与詹姆斯一起取得的成就。 - about what we have achieved here today together with James. 772 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,790 干杯 Cheers! 773 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,790 -为了你！-干杯！非常感谢。 - And for you! - Cheers! Thank you. 774 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:14,190 所以我们同意在朝鲜之外的地方建一座工厂- So we agreed on building a factory outside North Korea, - 775 00:55:11,460 --> 00:55:16,420 {\an8}纳雷将在第三国建立军工厂，以生产军事装备，并提供技术人员来操作工厂。 776 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,750 -制造武器和甲基苯丙胺。 - that would make weapons and methamphetamine. 777 00:55:20,770 --> 00:55:23,140 去氧麻黄碱 778 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,430 而且，按照他们的习惯- And, as is custom for them, - 779 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,110 -他们建议将它建在地下。 - they suggest it will definitely be underground. 780 00:55:28,930 --> 00:55:31,230 朝鲜人有什么偏好吗 And did the Koreans have any preferences 781 00:55:31,250 --> 00:55:33,470 当涉及到国家，或建议？ when it came to countries, or suggestions? 782 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,870 出现的第一个目的地是纳米比亚- The first destination that came up, was Namibia, - 783 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:42,670 -他们在政府中有关系密切的人。 - where they had friendly people in the government. 784 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,790 由于制裁，这件事被取消了。 That was taken off the table due to the sanctions. 785 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:54,910 因此，下一个被提上台面的国家是乌干达。 So, the next country that was put on the table, was Uganda. 786 00:55:57,060 --> 00:55:58,210 综上所述， So, to sum it up, 787 00:55:58,210 --> 00:56:01,690 你现在是朝鲜武器交易商和经纪人？ you are now a North Korean weapons dealer and broker? 788 00:56:01,690 --> 00:56:02,700 对 Yes. 789 00:56:07,550 --> 00:56:10,250 晚上好，很高兴有你在这里 Good evening, and it's great to have you with us here 790 00:56:10,250 --> 00:56:13,010 星期一晚上。我们从今天的最新发展开始， on a Monday night. And we begin with late developments today, 791 00:56:13,010 --> 00:56:16,010 对一对来自俄亥俄州的父母来说，日益恶化的恐惧。 the worsening horror for a mother and father from Ohio. 792 00:56:16,010 --> 00:56:18,370 他们的儿子刚刚从朝鲜回来 Their son, who was just returned from North Korea 793 00:56:18,370 --> 00:56:21,930 伴着严重脑损伤，现已死亡。 with severe brain damage, has now died. 794 00:56:21,930 --> 00:56:24,530 从他们儿子被判刑那一刻起 Since the moment their son was sentenced 795 00:56:24,530 --> 00:56:27,850 偷宣传海报的苦役， to hard labour for stealing a propaganda poster, 796 00:56:27,850 --> 00:56:31,570 沃姆比尔一家一直在战斗，直到他被释放。 the Warmbiers were fighting until he was released. 797 00:56:31,570 --> 00:56:36,090 看他的眼神，我当时不知道他是盲人， The look in his eyes, which I didn't know he was blind at the time, 798 00:56:36,090 --> 00:56:41,490 是绝对的恐怖，就像他看到了魔鬼。 was absolute horror - horror like he'd seen the devil. 799 00:56:41,490 --> 00:56:45,420 他和魔鬼在一起。 And he had. He was with the devil. 800 00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:50,950 让我们先说“欢迎回家”。 Let's begin by saying "Welcome home". 801 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:51,960 谢谢。 Thanks a lot. 802 00:56:55,790 --> 00:56:59,570 回到哥本哈根，我惊讶地发现我的两个代理人 Back in Copenhagen, I was shocked to discover what my two proxies 803 00:56:59,570 --> 00:57:02,090 在平壤取得了成功。 had accomplished in Pyongyang. 804 00:57:02,090 --> 00:57:05,490 他们带来了真实、原始的情报。 They had brought real, raw intelligence with them. 805 00:57:05,490 --> 00:57:09,330 正如学者安德里亚·伯杰在其研究《目标市场》中所写， As the scholar Andrea Berger writes in her study Target Markets, 806 00:57:09,330 --> 00:57:13,050 对朝鲜武器系统的定价知之甚少， very little is known about pricing on North Korean weapons systems, 807 00:57:13,050 --> 00:57:17,490 但这里有一份完全详细的硬拷贝目录。 but here was a fully detailed menu in hard copy. 808 00:57:17,490 --> 00:57:20,530 詹姆斯先生被任命为朝鲜武器经纪人 Mr. James being appointed as a North Korean arms broker 809 00:57:20,530 --> 00:57:22,770 似乎是一个病态思维的产物， seemed like the figment of a sick mind, 810 00:57:22,770 --> 00:57:25,570 但这里还有一份签字盖章的合同， but here also was a signed and sealed contract, 811 00:57:25,570 --> 00:57:27,990 由朝鲜人用英语起草。 drawn up in English by the North Koreans. 812 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,870 我们签了... We signed it... 813 00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:33,730 在詹姆斯先生来之前，只有少数非朝鲜人 Before Mr. James came along, only a few non-Koreans 814 00:57:33,730 --> 00:57:36,870 曾为平壤政权代理武器。 had been known to broker weapons for the regime in Pyongyang. 815 00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:42,530 早在2011年，英国军火商迈克尔·兰格被捕 Back in 2011, the British arms dealer Michael Ranger was arrested 816 00:57:42,530 --> 00:57:46,170 他为阿塞拜疆和朝鲜之间的交易牵线搭桥， for brokering a deal between Azerbaijan and North Korea, 817 00:57:46,170 --> 00:57:49,650 但他是一个经验丰富的军火商，参与了一场危险的游戏 but he was a highly experienced arms dealer in a dangerous game 818 00:57:49,650 --> 00:57:52,390 这对于专家来说很危险，更不用说业余爱好者了。 for experts, let alone amateurs. 819 00:57:54,350 --> 00:57:58,510 尽管如此，詹姆斯先生和鼹鼠还是中了头奖。 Nevertheless, Mr. James and the mole had scored a jackpot. 820 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,110 我升职了...我接到了一项任务。 And I got promoted... I have been given an assignment. 821 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:08,110 标题是：“纳雷贸易公司商业代理的荣誉职位”。 The title is: "Honorary Position of Business Agent for Narae Trading Corporation". 822 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,910 我必须通知我亲爱的朋友亚历杭德罗升职的消息。 I have to inform my dear friend Alejandro about the promotion. 823 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:19,630 因为在朝鲜，我们同意我会给亚历杭德罗一份关于这次访问的完整报告。 Because in Korea, we agreed that I would give Alejandro a full report about the visit. 824 00:58:20,850 --> 00:58:24,740 塔拉戈纳 2017 西班牙 825 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,870 -准备好了吗？-一切就绪。 - Is it ready? - All is ready. 826 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,030 我胸前的相机怎么样，还好吗？ What about the camera on my chest, is it fine? 827 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,150 亚历杭德罗同志！你好吗 Comrade Alejandro! How are you? 828 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,950 -欢迎来到“地堡”。-非常感谢。 - Welcome to "The Bunker". - Thank you. 829 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,230 是的，地堡。完美的 Yes, the bunker. Perfect. 830 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,230 这里很热。我们在平壤的时候只有零下21度。 It's hot here. We had minus 21 in Pyongyang, when we were there. 831 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,310 真正地 Really? 832 00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:55,210 为了让鼹鼠做好下一次任务的准备，亚历杭德罗现在将提供指导 To prepare the mole for his next mission, Alejandro would now provide 833 00:58:55,210 --> 00:58:59,030 如何在乌干达经商。 guidance on how to operate as a businessman in Uganda. 834 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,790 在非洲，没有人会照顾你。 In Africa, nobody is going to take care of you. 835 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:08,150 -詹姆斯的生命，你的命我的命，只值五十美元 -好啊 - The life of James，your life mylife, is worth 50 US dollars. - OK. 836 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:13,990 这就是雇佣杀手割喉的报价。 That's what it costs to hire a hitman and cut your throat. 837 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,630 字面上的，割断你的喉咙。 Literally cut your throat. 838 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,830 别忘了他们很强壮- And don't forget that they are quite strong, - 839 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,190 -因为他们整天在阳光下工作。 - because they work all day under the sun. 840 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,030 砍倒灌木丛和一切。 Taking the bush and everything. 841 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,710 黑人有那东西... The negro has that thing... 842 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,950 当你不看他们的时候，他们会偷... In the moment you don't look at them, they will steal... 843 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,870 …你的一切，哪怕是一滴水。 ...everything from you, even a drop of water. 844 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:36,390 他们需要总是有一个人在上面，告诉他们该做什么。 And they need always to have a person on top of them, telling them what to do. 845 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,670 如果没有，他们只会睡觉或偷窃，睡觉或偷窃。 If not, they'd just sleep or steal. Sleep or steal. 846 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:47,390 如果白人主人不在，他们会觉得自己像动物一样，破坏一切。 If the white master is not there, they will feel like animals, and destroy everything. 847 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:51,590 因此，他需要真正谨慎地对待进来的人？ So he needs to be really careful about whom to bring in? 848 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,830 是的，是的，非常小心。 Yes, yes, very careful. 849 00:59:53,840 --> 01:00:01,840 如果要任命一个人，必须是一个愿意为之牺牲的人。 And if one person is to be appointed, it has to be a person willing to die for it. 850 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,110 但是…想法是什么...？ But what is the idea of...? 851 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:07,630 其目的是制造- The idea is to make the - 852 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,590 -甲基苯丙胺和武器。 - methamphetamine and weapons. 853 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,590 当你谈论生意时，不要再使用这些词。好吗？ When you're talking about the business, do never use those words again. OK? 854 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,910 我认为你应该小心。 I think you should take care. 855 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,550 突然，他站起来，说他想给我看些东西。 Suddenly, he just stood up and said he wanted to show me something. 856 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:36,870 这是一个信号检测器。它会检测到你可能携带的任何种类的窃听器- This is a bug detector. It will detect any kind of bugs that you may carry, - 857 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,550 -或者可能有人穿在你身上。 - or that someone may have put on you. 858 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,590 如果你身上有麦克风或其他东西，它会发出信号。 If you have a microphone or something on you, it will make a signal. 859 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,060 -好吗？-啊，好的。太好了。 - OK? - Ah, OK. Perfect. 860 01:00:47,070 --> 01:00:48,950 -你有麦克风吗？-我的麦克风开着，是的 - You were mic'd up? - I was mic'd up, yeah. 861 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:51,790 试试我的手机。 Try my phone. 862 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,510 啊，好的。 Ah, OK. 863 01:00:56,620 --> 01:00:58,300 这是一个信号。 Here is a signal. 864 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,870 你有射频的东西吗？无线电频率？ Do you have something RF? Radio Frequency? 865 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,190 我有租来的车的车钥匙。 I have the car key for my rental car. 866 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,870 我桌上有一个小包，我的车钥匙在里面。 I have a small bag on the table. I have my car key in it. 867 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,510 也许是因为它把一些信号降下来了？ Maybe it's because it takes some signals down? 868 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,830 这是通过远程控制的。 This is by remote control. 869 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,590 所以它在向... So it was sending a signal to the... 870 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,270 但这是…我扫了很多次。我们什么都没有。 But this is... I sweep it many times. We don't have anything. 871 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,100 请在我们来之前每次都这样做。 Please, do that every time before we come. 872 01:01:41,110 --> 01:01:47,570 所以，当你谈论生意时，你必须找到两个黑话来谈论这两件事。 So, when you're talking about the business, you have to find two words to talk about two things. 873 01:01:47,580 --> 01:01:51,570 千万不要用以前用过的词，好吗？ Never use those words that you used before, OK? 874 01:01:51,580 --> 01:01:59,580 例如，当提到你吸的东西时，你应该谈论罐装海鲜 You should talk about canned seafood, for example, when referring to something you eat 875 01:02:03,060 --> 01:02:11,630 当你谈到另一件事时，让我们来谈谈当地人制作的木制工艺品。 and when you are talking about the other thing, let's talk about wood handicrafts, made by the native people. 876 01:02:14,980 --> 01:02:20,680 这样，他们就永远搞不清你在说什么。这种信息传递是必不可少的。 This way, they can never figure out what you're talking about. This kind of messaging is essential. 877 01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:25,990 我们谈论的不是一件小事。如果这件事失败了，就会有很多人失败。 We are not talking about a small thing. If this goes down, there are many millions going down. 878 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,750 所以，詹姆斯也必须明白，这不是孩子的游戏。 So, also James has to understand, this is not a child's game. 879 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,230 不，我对他说：“听着……” No. I said to him: "Listen..." 880 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,470 说真的，因为这样对你很容易... To be serious, because it's as easy as this, to do like this to you... 881 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,670 …我可以放麦克风。-对 ...I can put a microphone. - Yes. 882 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,350 “嗨，你好，欢迎来到巴塞罗那！” "Hey, hello, welcome to Barcelona!" 883 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:44,110 然后你就不知道你在泄露信息。 And then you have no idea that you are broadcasting information. 884 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:49,830 很好，我们需要。特别是那个好的。俄罗斯的那个。 It's good, we need that. Especially the good one. The Russian one. 885 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:50,990 这只是基本的。 This is just basic. 886 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,030 就这些，不是吗？我们讨论了所有问题。 That's all, no? We discussed all the issues. 887 01:03:15,140 --> 01:03:16,620 接下来发生了什么？ What happened next? 888 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:19,990 我跳上车，然后- I jump in the car, and - 889 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,390 -然后我开始感觉不好。 - then I start to feel bad. 890 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,590 我脑子里有很多照片- I have a lot of pictures on my mind, - 891 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,150 -我现在只需要把这件事放下，因为它对我造成了伤害- - and I now I just need to get this off, because it did something to me; - 892 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,590 -真是千钧一发。 - it was such a close call. 893 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,660 所以，这里要说清楚， So, just to be fully clear here, 894 01:03:51,660 --> 01:03:56,300 他完全了解了在乌干达建造秘密工厂的计划？ he was fully briefed on the plans to build the secret factory in Uganda? 895 01:03:56,300 --> 01:03:58,080 -喜欢这个主意。-可以 - Loved the idea. - Okay. 896 01:03:59,180 --> 01:04:04,880 坎帕拉 2017 乌干达 897 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,580 在乌干达，詹姆斯将是进攻手。 In Uganda, Mr. James would be the playmaker. 898 01:04:10,580 --> 01:04:11,820 是的，好的。 Yeah, okay. 899 01:04:11,820 --> 01:04:13,180 要把这一切都拍下来， And to have it all on camera, 900 01:04:13,180 --> 01:04:15,420 他带了一个正在拍摄的摄影师 he brought a photographer who was filming 901 01:04:15,420 --> 01:04:19,760 该摄影师正在拍摄关于他作为国际神秘人物的生活的秘密视频。 for a covert video about his life as a man of international mystery. 902 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,160 还有鼹鼠，他带着隐藏的相机。 And the mole, he brought his hidden camera. 903 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:30,510 -按钮在哪里？-在旁边 - Where's the button? - On the side. 904 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,790 是的，现在是红色的。 Yes, it's red now. 905 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,670 再见 See you. 906 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:47,760 那么，接下来会发生什么？ So, what happens next? 907 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,430 然后，朝鲜人抵达坎帕拉。 Then, the North Koreans arrived in Kampala. 908 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,670 嗨，你来了！很高兴再次见到你！ Hi, you're there! Good to see you again! 909 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,310 早上好很高兴见到你。 Good morning. Nice to see you. 910 01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:02,830 其中一个，他是地堡里的人之一，在我签名时。 One of them, he was one of the people in the basement, while I was signing. 911 01:05:04,340 --> 01:05:05,360 那是...？ Is that...? 912 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,150 -是的，那就是我们称之为“石头脸”的人。 - Yes, that's the person we named "Stoneface". 913 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,200 他是谁？ And who is he? 914 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:16,030 那是丹尼先生，来自朝鲜的国际军火商。 That's Mr. Danny, the international arms dealer from North Korea. 915 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:17,830 请进来。 Please come in. 916 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,510 你可以进来，没问题。 You can walk in here, no problem. 917 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,710 非常感谢。非常感谢。 Thank you. Thank you. 918 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:30,190 我想詹姆斯先生很快就会来。 I think Mr. James will come shortly. 919 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,990 所以我们可以自己聊一聊。 So we can talk a little ourselves. 920 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,300 本月早些时候，朝鲜威胁要开火 Earlier this month, North Korea threatened to fire 921 01:05:36,300 --> 01:05:38,800 向美国领土关岛发射导弹。 missiles towards the US territory of Guam. 922 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,820 这激起了美国总统对战争的威胁。 This provoked the US president into threats of war. 923 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:48,510 我在新闻中看到，朝鲜今天上午进行了一次成功的导弹试射？ I read in the news that the DPRK had a successful missile test this morning? 924 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,150 对 Yes. 925 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:56,750 我没有任何担忧，我只是认为唐纳德·特朗普总统是个疯子。 I don't have any concerns, I just think that president Donald Trump is a crazy man. 926 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:57,790 他说了什么？ What did he say? 927 01:05:57,790 --> 01:06:03,700 朝鲜最好不要再对美国做出任何威胁。 North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. 928 01:06:03,700 --> 01:06:08,180 他们将遭到猛烈的攻击 They will be met with fire and fury 929 01:06:08,180 --> 01:06:10,580 将是全世界从未见过的。 like the world has never seen. 930 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:20,480 我们将继续发射导弹，直到美国人停止挑衅我们的国家。 We will continue to launch missiles, until the Americans stop provoking our country. 931 01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:26,870 你来了！你好 There you are! Hello. 932 01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:32,270 很高兴见到你！你好很高兴再次见到你。 Nice to see you! Hi. Nice to see you again. 933 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,350 两秒钟。我关上这里。 Two seconds. I'll just close here. 934 01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,350 当时的想法是买一座岛- The idea was to buy an island - 935 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:47,350 -在地下建造一个武器工厂。 - and build a weapons factory underground. 936 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,790 所以，我一直在考察一个岛屿。 So, I've been looking at an island. 937 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:57,270 这个岛很完美。它在维多利亚湖的中央。 This island is perfect. It's in the middle of Victoria Lake. 938 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:04,590 因此，如果飞机降落，湖边上的人甚至看不到它们。 So if airplanes come down, people on the mainland would not even see them. 939 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,510 纪念品 Souvenir! 940 01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,310 我们去了那里，去看看这个岛... We went there, to check out the island... 941 01:07:36,310 --> 01:07:38,560 你是怎么找到这个岛的？ How had you found the island in the first place? 942 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:40,390 哦 Oh... 943 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,070 …谷歌。 ...Google. 944 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,110 我找到了一个可以购买私人岛屿的地方。 I found a place where you can buy private islands. 945 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,190 我可以花五百万美元买这个。 I could get this for five million dollars. 946 01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,270 这个岛是个很好的主意。 This island is a very good idea. 947 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,830 我们建造了厂房，然后- We construct the factory building, and then, after that, - 948 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,190 -我们必须提供一些设备。 - we must provide some equipment. 949 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,790 设备取决于产品。 The equipment depends on the products. 950 01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,030 您可以向我们购买... You can purchase from us... 951 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,550 首先我们可以，比如说，使用导弹。 First we can, for example, with the missiles. 952 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,430 或者几种导弹。 Or several kind of missiles. 953 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:21,550 你让自家的飞机飞到我们国家- You bring your own aircraft to our country, - 954 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,350 -以人道主义援助为名。 - under the name of humanitarian aid. 955 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,310 你可以带一些衣服，一些食物... You can bring some clothing, some food... 956 01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:32,150 然后我们可以装载所有合同项目- Then we can load all the contracted items, - 957 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,710 -然后你付钱给我们，然后你飞回来。 - then you pay money to us, and then you fly back. 958 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,510 我们可以为您提供一切- We can provide you with everything - 959 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,630 -从小型弹药到大型导弹。 - from small ammunition to big missiles. 960 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,990 还有电子战设备。 Electro-warrior items also. 961 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,870 雷达，所有的通讯系统... Radar, all the communications systems... 962 01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,750 ……我们可以制造任何武器。 ...we can do everything. 963 01:08:57,480 --> 01:08:59,630 所以我们想出去看看- So we wanted to go out and see - 964 01:08:59,960 --> 01:09:02,670 -如果它真的可以用于这个目的。 - if it could actually be used for the purpose. 965 01:09:03,700 --> 01:09:09,130 {\an4\pos(394,652)}岛主代表 966 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:11,260 {\pos(740,750)}裘德·穆佐拉 房地产经纪人 967 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,710 在我们去之前，房地产商- And before we went there, the real estate man on it - 968 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:13,510 -说他已经告诉了岛上的人- - said that he had told the people on the island - 969 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,670 -因为人们住在岛上- — because people lived on the island — 970 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,790 -我们是来建医院的。 - that we were there to build a hospital. 971 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:23,030 所以整个村子都在欢迎我们。 So the whole village is there to welcome us. 972 01:09:32,480 --> 01:09:34,070 啊！非常感谢。 Ah! Thank you! 973 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,140 我们在等某人。 We are waiting for someone. 974 01:09:42,140 --> 01:09:44,120 你妹妹？你哥哥？ Your sister? Your brother? 975 01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:56,230 我所说的是在一个友好的聚会上- What I was saying was to introduce you as a friendly party - 976 01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,430 -把你介绍给岛上的人。 - to the people on the island. 977 01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:06,750 因为我们不想让他们知道地主和我们之间的交易。 Because we don't want them to know about the transaction between the landlord and us. 978 01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:11,830 这就是为什么你告诉他们我是来建医院的？ And this is why you told them that I was there to build a hospital? 979 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,590 -是的。-好的，我明白了。 - Yes. - OK. I see. 980 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,470 所以我需要你的合作，好吗？ So I need your cooperation, OK? 981 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:20,950 好的，现在让我们祈祷。 OK. Now let us pray. 982 01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:26,030 我以耶稣的名义祝福这些人... I bless this people in Jesus' name... 983 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,030 这个家伙，他对我说：“我告诉过岛上的人。”- This guy, he said to me: "I have told people on the island" - 984 01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,990 -“你要建一所医院”。我说：“什么？！” - "you're gonna build a hospital". I said: "What?!" 985 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,710 “我看起来不像医院的人！” "I don't look like a hospital guy!" 986 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:40,830 我的职责- My duty - 987 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,670 -就是把那些人从土地上赶走- - is to remove those people from the land - 988 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,270 -而不会引起摩擦。 - without causing friction. 989 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:48,760 好啊 OK. 990 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,670 我们能以多快的速度让他们移民？ And how fast can we have them moved? 991 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,670 最长为四个月。 Maximum is four months. 992 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,750 -这已经包含在价格中了，对吧？-是 啊 - That is included in the price, right? - Yeah. 993 01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,710 -这就是他们踢足球的地方？-对 - So this is where they play football? - Yes. 994 01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,190 我想这里可能有一个很棒的着陆场。 I think there could be a great landing field here. 995 01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:09,430 -是的，是的，非常好。-好的。太好了。 - Yes, yes, very much so. - OK. Perfect. 996 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,590 好的，很好。很好。 OK, that's good. It's good. 997 01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:16,790 但现在的情况...美国正在监视我们的国家。 But now the situation... America is watching our country. 998 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:21,510 美国情报机构不应该知道这个项目。 The US intelligence agencies should not know about this project. 999 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:28,750 所以，想法是... So, the idea is... 1000 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,230 -这是他们的想法- — and this is their idea — 1001 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,950 -我们应该在上面建一家酒店- - that we should build a hotel above; - 1002 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:38,310 -某种度假胜地，这可以解释为什么我们在那里有一个着陆场。 - some kind of resort, and that can explain why we have a landing ground there. 1003 01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,830 其他一切都将建在地下。 Everything else will be built underground. 1004 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,700 我给你看另一边的一个，然后我们就结束了， I will show you one on the other side and then we are done, 1005 01:11:46,700 --> 01:11:48,840 然后你就对所有的事情有了一个概念 and then you have an idea of all the things. 1006 01:11:52,180 --> 01:11:54,980 你有没有觉得他们有什么特别的东西， Did you get an impression that they had something out of the box, 1007 01:11:54,980 --> 01:11:58,300 所以他们以前做过这件事，并有一个标准的计划， so they had done this before and had a standard plan, 1008 01:11:58,300 --> 01:12:02,250 伪装这些设施的标准外观？ a standard look for disguising these sort of facilities? 1009 01:12:02,250 --> 01:12:04,480 他们和其他人一起工作过吗？ They had worked with other people like this? 1010 01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:07,190 是的，是的，他们已经说过了。 Yes, yes, they'd already said that. 1011 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,790 “我们有工程师，我们有知识..." ”We have the engineers, we have the knowledge..." 1012 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,750 这不是关于我应该提出这些想法的讨论。 It was not a discussion about I should come up with those ideas. 1013 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,790 因为，从一开始，我就只是一名投资者。 Because, from the beginning, I'm an investor. 1014 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,510 “我投资于此；我认为这是个好主意”- "I invest in it; I think it's a good idea", - 1015 01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,670 -但整个建筑背后的建筑师是他们。 - but the architects behind the whole structure were them. 1016 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:28,870 再见。 Bye bye. 1017 01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,150 当我们离开这个岛时，我感觉很糟糕。 I was feeling very bad when we left the island. 1018 01:12:34,480 --> 01:12:37,230 这个岛上有数千人。 There lives thousands on this island. 1019 01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:41,470 成千上万的人愿意离开这个岛- Thousands and thousands they're willing to throw off the island, - 1020 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,750 -在四个月后，如果我拿出五百万美元。 - in four months, if I put down five million dollars. 1021 01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:49,000 如何做到这一点？政府参与了吗？ How can that be done? Was the government involved? 1022 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:51,470 我们坐了下来- We had a sit-down, - 1023 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,950 -由经纪人牵线- - established by the broker, - 1024 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,310 -与政府官员会面。 - with government officials. 1025 01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,270 我很直接。我说： I was quite open. I said: 1026 01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:04,110 “我们想在岛上做点什么，我不能告诉你这是什么，”- "we want to do something on the island, I cannot tell you what it is," - 1027 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,670 -“但我们想要百分之百的隐私，我们不想受到任何干扰，”- - "but we want 100% privacy, we don't want any interference," - 1028 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,150 -“我想要这样，否则我们不想买这个岛。” - "and I want that, otherwise we don't want to buy the island." 1029 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,310 如果这东西能飞起来，我们就能很快地行动 If this flies, we can move very fast. 1030 01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,670 我们可以让人们离开这个岛。 We can get the people out of the island. 1031 01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,110 我们可以开始这样做了。 And we can start doing this. 1032 01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,630 -当然。-听起来怎么样？ - Sure. - How does that sound? 1033 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,910 这听起来很有趣。 That sounds very interesting. 1034 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,230 我在政府工作了十五年。 I've been working with the government for the last 15 years. 1035 01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:27,550 这个项目是关于什么的？ What is the project about? 1036 01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,790 它会成为高尔夫度假胜地吗？码头？ Is it going to be a golf resort? A marina? 1037 01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,150 健康水疗中心？ A health spa? 1038 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,310 我们想回馈社会。我们有企业社会责任... We want to give back to society. We have CSR obligations... 1039 01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,030 然后我们会投资一些学校或类似的东西。 Then we'll buy some schools or something like that. 1040 01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:48,230 我们希望获得许可，让飞机降落并从我们的岛上起飞。 We want clearance that we can land planes and take them off from our island. 1041 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:52,990 机场许可证可以办理，只要它是投资计划的一部分。 The aerodrome license can be done, as long as it's part of the investment plan. 1042 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:55,550 这只鸟将会起飞。 This bird will fly. 1043 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,310 这是悦耳的音乐。 That's sweet music to our ears. 1044 01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:00,750 这就是我所做的。 That's what I do. 1045 01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,350 给我一个阿门！ Give me an Amen! 1046 01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,350 阿门，兄弟们！ Amen, brothers! 1047 01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:05,870 我们也很疯狂。 We were really crazy as well. 1048 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,710 我们实际上得到了承诺- We actually got promised that - 1049 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,790 -他们实际上可以- - they could actually - 1050 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,630 -让海关保护我们的岛屿。 - have customs protect our island. 1051 01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,390 让我们一起祈祷吧。 Let's pray together. 1052 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:22,110 天父，保佑我们的计划，保佑我们。阿门。 Heavenly Father, bless our project, bless our ideas. Amen. 1053 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:23,590 阿门！ Amen! 1054 01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:27,560 非常感谢。 Thank you. 1055 01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,900 所以，尽管项目的真正目的 So, although the true purpose of the project was not 1056 01:14:43,900 --> 01:14:45,580 没有向非洲人透露， revealed to the Africans, 1057 01:14:45,580 --> 01:14:47,260 购买乌干达的岛屿 buying the island in Uganda 1058 01:14:47,260 --> 01:14:50,020 并将其用于秘密武器和毒品工厂 and using it for a secret weapons and drug factory 1059 01:14:50,020 --> 01:14:53,180 似乎正中朝鲜人的下怀， seemed to be right up the alley of the North Koreans, 1060 01:14:53,180 --> 01:14:55,360 这是一个很重要的证明。 which was kind of important to prove. 1061 01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,540 但它并没有就此止步，因为在乌干达， But it did not stop there because, while in Uganda, 1062 01:15:00,540 --> 01:15:03,580 朝鲜军火商丹尼先生准备 the North Korean arms dealer Mr. Danny was ready to take 1063 01:15:03,580 --> 01:15:05,740 将这一合资企业向前推进一步。 the joint venture a step further. 1064 01:15:05,740 --> 01:15:07,280 是的，我们可以在大厅见面。 Yeah, we can meet in the lobby. 1065 01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:09,270 你什么时候到？ When will you be there? 1066 01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,750 好的，我期待着见到你。当心。再见。 OK, I look forward to see you. Take care. Bye bye. 1067 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,270 你说你还有一些东西需要运输吗？ You said you had some things you needed to move as well? 1068 01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:28,550 是的，例如，你能把我们的商品带到中东国家吗？ Yes, for example, can you can bring our items to Middle East countries? 1069 01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:34,630 -这件事与叙利亚有关。-叙利亚？ - This business is with Syria. - Syria? 1070 01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:39,670 他们想要什么样的物品？ What kind of items they want there? 1071 01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:44,790 -子弹，炸弹。-好啊 - Projectiles. Bombs. - OK. 1072 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:52,910 如果你能把所有物品从朝鲜运到叙利亚... If you can transport all items from our country to Syria... 1073 01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:58,270 你给我一个招呼，我可以去北京，我们可以见面讨论需要什么。 You give me a signal and I can go to Beijing and we can meet and discuss what it takes. 1074 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,540 朝鲜需要向叙利亚运送武器 North Koreans needing to move armaments to Syria is 1075 01:16:03,540 --> 01:16:05,940 实际上是一条非常有趣的信息， actually a very interesting piece of information, 1076 01:16:05,940 --> 01:16:08,580 所以请允许我离题一点。 so please allow me to digress a little bit. 1077 01:16:08,580 --> 01:16:13,010 历史上，朝鲜和叙利亚是多年的朋友 Historically, North Korea and Syria have been friends for many years 1078 01:16:13,010 --> 01:16:15,980 朝鲜人甚至在叙利亚建造核反应堆 and the North Koreans were even building a nuclear reactor 1079 01:16:15,980 --> 01:16:20,980 直到以色列人决定炸毁它。 in the Syrian desert until the Israelis decided to blow it up. 1080 01:16:16,470 --> 01:16:20,960 {\an8}杂志称以色列在2007年使用十七吨炸药摧毁了叙利亚的反应堆 1081 01:16:20,980 --> 01:16:22,450 在叙利亚内战期间， During the civil war in Syria, 1082 01:16:22,450 --> 01:16:25,980 《纽约时报》发表了一篇关于朝鲜如何 the New York Times published a story about how North Korea was 1083 01:16:25,980 --> 01:16:29,480 帮助叙利亚政权实施化学武器计划。 helping the Syrian regime with its chemical weapons programme. 1084 01:16:30,620 --> 01:16:33,340 与此同时，还发现了来自朝鲜的轻兵器 At the same time, small arms from North Korea have been found 1085 01:16:33,340 --> 01:16:35,900 在伊斯兰国战士手中， in the hands of fighters from the Islamic State, 1086 01:16:35,900 --> 01:16:40,340 但这些武器很可能是从叙利亚军队偷来的。 but most likely these weapons were stolen from the Syrian army. 1087 01:16:40,340 --> 01:16:44,740 所以，当朝鲜军火商丹尼先生想要运送炸弹时 So, when the North Korean arms dealer Mr. Danny wants to send bombs 1088 01:16:44,740 --> 01:16:49,800 最终用户可能是叙利亚政权。 and projectiles to Syria, the end user is probably the Syrian regime. 1089 01:16:53,260 --> 01:16:54,580 你对丹尼说了什么 So what did you say to Danny 1090 01:16:54,580 --> 01:16:57,040 当他建议你帮助叙利亚行动时？ when he suggested that you help with the Syria move? 1091 01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,590 我答应了；我想这样做。 I said yes; I would like to do that. 1092 01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:06,990 然后他说：“那你就得去北京了。”- Then he said: "Then you'll have to go to Beijing" - 1093 01:17:08,140 --> 01:17:13,030 北京 2017 中国 1094 01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,580 我仍然感到不快的是，把詹姆斯先生送到北京 Something I still feel bad about is sending Mr. James to Beijing 1095 01:17:20,580 --> 01:17:23,120 与朝鲜军火商会面。 to meet with North Korean arms dealers. 1096 01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,820 身处黑暗的人知道黑暗面 People who are in the know about the dark side 1097 01:17:26,820 --> 01:17:28,720 强烈建议我们不要这样做。 advised us strongly against it. 1098 01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:33,460 因为如果中国的情报部门 Because if the Chinese intelligence service would shine 1099 01:17:33,460 --> 01:17:37,880 将灯照在詹姆斯先生身上，那将是另一个故事。 their lights on Mr. James, it would be another ball game entirely. 1100 01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,780 但詹姆斯先生是一个行动派 But Mr. James is a man who craves action 1101 01:17:43,780 --> 01:17:48,000 我是一个渴望轰动的电影制作人，所以他还是去了。 and I am a film-maker who craves sensation, so he went anyway. 1102 01:17:56,280 --> 01:18:00,550 在我去北京之前，我一直与丹尼先生保持联系- Before I'm going to Beijing, I've been in contact with Mr. Danny, - 1103 01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:05,270 -他说他已经把计划传达给了他的合作伙伴- - who said he had passed it on to his collaboration partner, - 1104 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,630 -他会推动交易前进。 - and he will take it forward. 1105 01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:13,150 请坐，按照惯例，我从丹麦给你带来了一些好东西。 Sit down, and, as custom, I've brought you something from Denmark. 1106 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,390 一个给你，一个给你。 One for you, and one for you. 1107 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:22,950 第一天，只有两位先生到达。 The first day, there's only two gentlemen arriving. 1108 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:28,310 其中一个人介绍自己是- And one of them introduce himself to be the main guy - 1109 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,550 -武器行业的主要人物。 - of the weapon industry. 1110 01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:32,820 两人都是朝鲜人。 Both men are North Korean. 1111 01:18:32,820 --> 01:18:36,660 我知道这一点，因为有时他们会互相说朝鲜语 I know this because sometimes they speak Korean to each other 1112 01:18:36,660 --> 01:18:38,640 用北方的方言。 in the dialect of the North. 1113 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:42,030 坦率地说，我们在各个方向都受阻。 Frankly speaking, we're blocked in all directions. 1114 01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:45,030 但我们都准备好向前迈进。 But we're all ready to move forward. 1115 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:53,880 他们说，二十五名工人已准备好去往乌干达。 They say 25 workers are ready to be sent to Uganda. 1116 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:01,510 显然，这两个人对乌干达的岛屿了如指掌- Clearly, the two men are in the know about the island in Uganda, - 1117 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,910 -这似乎是当务之急。 - which seems to be a top priority. 1118 01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:09,950 如果他买下了这座岛并建造了工厂，那就不一样了。 If he had bought the island and built the factories, it would be different. 1119 01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:13,030 但他们能信任詹姆斯先生吗？ But can they trust Mr. James? 1120 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:17,430 我不知道丹尼是否已经告诉过你我们正在做的生意？ I don't know if Danny has already told you about the business we are doing? 1121 01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,430 -武器，是吗？-武器，好的。 - The weapons, yeah? - Weapons, OK. 1122 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,670 他对我说：“我们与叙利亚有合作，”- He said to me: "We have a collaboration with Syria," - 1123 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,350 “但我们的问题是给他们武器库。” "But our problem is to give them the armoury." 1124 01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,950 “你认为你能帮助我们吗？” "Do you think you can help us?" 1125 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,430 -对吗？-是的，叙利亚。 - Is that correct? - Yes, Syria. 1126 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,310 -你在叙利亚有联系人吗？-是的，是的。 - You have contacts in Syria? - Yeah, yeah. 1127 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:44,710 如果你给我一份你无法联系的人的名单- If you give me a list of the people that you officially cannot contact, - 1128 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,910 -然后我可以联系他们，因为我可以到处旅行- - then I can contact them, because I can travel here and there, - 1129 01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:50,190 -代表您。 - on behalf of you. 1130 01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,910 我可以在这里抽烟吗？不，在外面？ May I smoke here? No, outside? 1131 01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:55,790 我不知道。 I don't know. 1132 01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:57,750 没关系，我去厕所。 It's OK, I'll go to the toilet. 1133 01:19:58,100 --> 01:19:59,910 厕所在外面。 The toilet is out there. 1134 01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,890 不，不，它在里面。 No, no. It is in there. 1135 01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:06,250 询问客户姓名 Asking for names of clients 1136 01:20:06,250 --> 01:20:10,520 对武器交易领域的接触来说似乎是一个阻碍。 and contacts in the world of arms dealing seems to be a show stopper. 1137 01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,310 他在问我们的客户是谁... He's asking about who our clients are... 1138 01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:37,070 他不是值得信任的人。 He is not someone to trust. 1139 01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,690 如果他像他说的那样有钱... If he has money as he says... 1140 01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:50,990 事实上，我在朝鲜的时候有点难过，那是在一月份，所以... Actually, I was kind of sad when I was in North Korea, it was in January, so... 1141 01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,430 -你去过朝鲜吗？-是 啊 - Have you been to North Korea? - Yeah. 1142 01:20:53,440 --> 01:20:55,110 你去过我们国家吗？ Have you visited our country? 1143 01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,990 -什么时候？-一月。我在朝鲜。是 啊 - When? - In January. I was in Korea. Yeah. 1144 01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:00,670 是谁邀请你的？ Who invited you? 1145 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:02,870 -姜。-姜先生？ - Kang. - Mr. Kang? 1146 01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:03,880 是 啊 Yeah. 1147 01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,950 第二天，我们要见面，突然... The second day, we're meeting, then suddenly... 1148 01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:21,390 -我们称之为“石头脸”的那个出现了。 - the one we refer to as "Stoneface" appears. 1149 01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,960 而这两个人之间的权力动态是什么？ And what was the power dynamic between these two? 1150 01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:33,790 这是一件奇怪的事情，因为层次结构非常复杂。 This is the strange thing, because the hierarchy is very difficult. 1151 01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:35,870 很高兴再次见到你。 Good to see you again. 1152 01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,500 神秘的石头脸被召到北京了吗 Was the enigmatic Stoneface summoned to Beijing 1153 01:21:40,500 --> 01:21:44,740 为了核实詹姆斯先生的身份？ in order to verify the identity of Mr. James? 1154 01:21:44,740 --> 01:21:47,500 他一句话也不说，甚至不笑， He never says a word, he does not even smile, 1155 01:21:47,500 --> 01:21:50,660 所以我们永远无法摸清石头脸的态度， so we can never know for sure about Stoneface, 1156 01:21:50,660 --> 01:21:54,710 但可以肯定的是，他的出现产生了影响。 but it is safe to say that his appearance made a difference. 1157 01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,270 我们应该仔细检查一切... We should check everything very carefully... 1158 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,990 ……甚至这些墙都有耳朵和眼睛，你知道吗？ ...even these walls have ears and eyes, you know? 1159 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:02,110 是 啊 Yeah. 1160 01:22:02,110 --> 01:22:04,630 我们正在寻找合适的人- We are looking for the right person - 1161 01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,750 -他负责运输。 - who is handling transporation. 1162 01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:12,480 例如，这个。 For example, this one. 1163 01:22:15,260 --> 01:22:18,300 步枪，手枪，空对空导弹。 Rifles, guns, air-to-air missiles. 1164 01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,870 目前，我们已经联系了另一个国家- At this moment we have contacted the other country, - 1165 01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,390 -他们在等着买这些。 - and they are waiting to buy these ones. 1166 01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:30,350 你能确认你在二到三个月内买下这个岛吗？ Can you confirm that you buy the island within 2—3 months? 1167 01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:34,470 我要做的就是亲自飞到那里- What I will do, is that I will fly down there personally - 1168 01:22:34,980 --> 01:22:37,630 -呆在那里直到它被买走。 - and stay down there until it's bought. 1169 01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,830 我当初去乌干达的唯一原因是- The only reason why I went to Uganda in the first place, - 1170 01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:42,670 -是因为你让我这么做的。 - was because you told me to. 1171 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,670 乌干达的负责人，一位律师... The head of the of Uganda, a lawyer... 1172 01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,350 …是我的亲密伙伴。 ...is my close partner. 1173 01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,790 如果你需要，我会帮你。 So if you need, I'll help you. 1174 01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:55,710 但请考虑一下，他们的生活方式... But please consider, their ways of life... 1175 01:22:55,720 --> 01:23:01,430 ……他们的工作风格与你和我们截然不同。 ...and their working style is quite different from you and us. 1176 01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,070 今天，“是的”，喝酒，“是”，明天，“忘记了”... Today, "yes", drink, "yes" tomorrow, "forgotten"... 1177 01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:14,270 -请考虑一下-好的。 - Please, consider it. - OK. 1178 01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:20,000 他们什么时候再次联系你的？ So, when did they contact you again? 1179 01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,790 事实上，这已经持续了很长时间。 It actually went a long time. 1180 01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:25,040 一年多了。 More than a year. 1181 01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:29,860 我的演员詹姆斯先生似乎有了自己的生命。 My actor, Mr. James, seemed to be taking on a life of his own. 1182 01:23:29,860 --> 01:23:31,380 这是一个令人担忧的问题。 That was a concern. 1183 01:23:31,620 --> 01:23:34,220 另一个令人担忧的问题是，鼹鼠要回西班牙做简报 Another concern was the mole going back to Spain to brief 1184 01:23:34,220 --> 01:23:39,460 向亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯，关于旅游项目， Alejandro Cao de Benos about the Tourism Project, 1185 01:23:39,460 --> 01:23:43,920 这是乌干达的地下武器和毒品工厂的代号。 the code name chosen for the underground weapons and drugs factory in Uganda. 1186 01:23:44,780 --> 01:23:48,800 巴塞罗纳 2017 西班牙 1187 01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:53,060 到目前为止，鼹鼠已经卧底了七年多 By now, the mole had been undercover for more than seven years 1188 01:23:53,060 --> 01:23:55,200 偏执狂情绪高涨。 and paranoia was running high. 1189 01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,540 到目前为止，没有情报部门发现我们， So far, no intelligence service had caught onto us, 1190 01:24:00,540 --> 01:24:03,740 但每次我们见到亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯， but, every time we met with Alejandro Cao de Benos, 1191 01:24:03,740 --> 01:24:05,700 我们不得不考虑这种可能性 we had to consider the possibility 1192 01:24:05,700 --> 01:24:09,460 他被幽灵跟踪。 that he was being followed by spooks. 1193 01:24:09,460 --> 01:24:11,860 同时，我们还必须考虑风险 At the same time, we also had to consider the risk 1194 01:24:11,860 --> 01:24:14,980 亚历杭德罗会升级他的反监视 that Alejandro would upgrade his counter surveillance 1195 01:24:14,980 --> 01:24:18,560 使用新设备麦克风。 with new devices for discovering microphones. 1196 01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:26,620 从现在起，鼹鼠只会在由我们选择酒店里和亚历杭德罗见面 From now on, the mole would only meet with Alejandro in a hotel 1197 01:24:26,620 --> 01:24:29,980 并有安全人员在隔壁待命 chosen by us with security on standby next door 1198 01:24:29,980 --> 01:24:32,600 以防他的身份被揭穿。 in case his cover was blown. 1199 01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,580 不久，亚历杭德罗又会给鼹鼠一个惊喜， Soon Alejandro would spring another surprise on the mole, 1200 01:24:43,580 --> 01:24:45,820 但首先是一段怀旧。 but first a piece of nostalgia. 1201 01:24:45,820 --> 01:24:49,940 你看，2006年和亚历杭德罗导游一起去朝鲜 You see, going to North Korea with Alejandro as my tour guide 1202 01:24:50,180 --> 01:24:54,850 给他留下了深刻的印象。 back in 2006 left a long-lasting impression on me. 1203 01:24:54,850 --> 01:24:57,820 显然，我也留下了长久的印象 Apparently I had also left a long-lasting impression 1204 01:24:57,820 --> 01:24:59,940 关于亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯 on Alejandro Cao de Benos 1205 01:24:59,940 --> 01:25:03,840 我的第一部关于朝鲜的纪录片《红色礼堂》也是如此。 and so had my first documentary about North Korea, The Red Chapel. 1206 01:25:05,420 --> 01:25:09,220 这部影片由两位韩裔丹麦人喜剧演员主演，他们去了平壤 The film stars two Danish-Korean comedians who go to Pyongyang 1207 01:25:09,220 --> 01:25:11,060 讽刺领导层， and lampoon the leadership, 1208 01:25:11,060 --> 01:25:15,480 这意味着我在朝鲜不再是受欢迎的先生了。 which means that I am not Mr. Popular in North Korea any more. 1209 01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:25,750 小猫咪。 Little pussycat. 1210 01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,830 路上的小猫咪... Little pussycat on the road... 1211 01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:33,550 这是一首关于猫的独立性的诗，一只小猫咪。 It's a poem about the independence of the cat, a little pussycat. 1212 01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:36,390 -一只小猫咪？那是什么？-一只猫。 - A little pussycat? What's that? - A cat. 1213 01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:40,110 -一只猫...还是…？-在英语中，你可以说pussycat或cat。 - A puss... or with...? - In English you can say pussycat or cat. 1214 01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,830 这是一只猫...喵。-喵...Pussy，这是什么意思？ It's a cat... Meow. - Meow... Pussy, what does it mean? 1215 01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:49,690 麦斯·布鲁格！你知道，我还有他的护照。布鲁格和另一个混蛋。 Mads Brugger! I still have his passport, you know. Brugger and the other fucker. 1216 01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,710 第一次旅行，是经过我，他们来找我。 First trip, it's by me. They come to me. 1217 01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:55,350 他们不止一次？ They were there more than once? 1218 01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,990 是的，他们在制作《红色礼堂》之前去过三次朝鲜。 Yes, they have been there three times before making "The Red Chapel". To North Korea. 1219 01:25:59,440 --> 01:26:01,870 突然，我接到平壤打来的电话： Suddenly, I receive a call from Pyongyang: 1220 01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,350 “亚历杭德罗，你知道《红色礼堂》发生了什么吗？” "Alejandro, you know what happened with "The Red Chapel"?" 1221 01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,230 “我什么都不知道！我没有参加会面。” "I know nothing! I was not in the meetings." 1222 01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:10,390 “我只是第一次带他们来。我甚至不知道他们是第二次、第三次来。” "I only brought them in the first trip. I don't even know they came second time, third time." 1223 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:15,510 我说：“你知道吗，你不告诉我，这是你应得的。” I said: "You know what, you deserve that for not telling me." 1224 01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:20,390 “他们占了你的便宜。他们欺骗你，他们操你，现在他们正在发财。” "They took advantage of you. They cheat you, they fuck you, and now they are making a fortune." 1225 01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,830 如果你和他们在一起，你可以阻止他们。 And if you were with them, you could have stopped them. 1226 01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:26,270 当然我知道讽刺，我知道他们是怎么想的！ Of course! I know sarcasm, I know how they think! 1227 01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,830 就在他们说：“屄，小猫咪。”- In the moment that they said: "Pussy. Pussycat." - 1228 01:26:30,440 --> 01:26:35,410 我会对他说：“我会砸碎布鲁格的脸！把他扔到矿洞里！” I will say to him: "I will smash the face of Brugger! And put him in the mine!" 1229 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,390 我会在朝鲜打他的脸因为你不能起诉我- And I will smash his face in North Korea, because you cannot prosecute me, - 1230 01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:40,430 -因为这是国家法律规定的。 - because it's under the laws of the country. 1231 01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,230 所以我会这么做的！操他妈！ So I will do that! What the fuck! 1232 01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,310 不管怎样，别介意。 Anyway, never mind about that. 1233 01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:51,360 撇开讽刺不谈，亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯是一个自以为是的人。 Sarcasm aside, Alejandro Cao de Benos is a man who thinks big. 1234 01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,260 在巴塞罗那的会议上，亚历杭德罗告诉鼹鼠 During the meeting in Barcelona, Alejandro tells the mole 1235 01:26:55,260 --> 01:26:59,260 三角交易的宏伟计划 of an ambitious plan for a triangle deal 1236 01:26:59,260 --> 01:27:04,320 涉及朝鲜的詹姆斯和一名约旦商人。 involving Mr. James, North Korea and a Jordanian businessman. 1237 01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:07,710 这是来自约旦的希沙姆·达索基。 This is Hisham Al Dasouki from Jordan. 1238 01:27:08,440 --> 01:27:11,470 他想为朝鲜提供燃料。 He wants to provide fuel to North Korea. 1239 01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:16,110 亚历杭德罗有了一个聪明的想法，我们可以达成“三角交易”... And Alejandro gets this wise idea that we can make a "triangle deal"... 1240 01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:17,680 是哪个...？ Which is...? 1241 01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:21,470 那就是我们把燃料送到朝鲜- Which is that we send the fuel to North Korea, - 1242 01:27:21,480 --> 01:27:25,790 -詹姆斯为武器零件和药品付款- - and James gets the payment in arms parts and pharmaceuticals - 1243 01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,630 -运到乌干达的岛屿。 - to the island in Uganda. 1244 01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:33,190 总的想法是你可以画三角形。 The general idea is that you can triangle. 1245 01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:37,990 没有人会知道...好的，现在我明白了。 And no one will ever know... OK, now I get it. 1246 01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:47,820 如果鼹鼠能把詹姆斯先生带到西班牙，亚历杭德罗会介绍 If the mole could get Mr. James to Spain, Alejandro will introduce him 1247 01:27:40,430 --> 01:27:47,090 {\an8}巴塞罗纳 2018 西班牙 1248 01:27:47,820 --> 01:27:50,300 他的三角交易计划。 to his plans for triangular trading. 1249 01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:04,310 所以我们在巴塞罗那港的游艇上安排了会议。 So we set up the meeting in a yacht in the harbour of Barcelona. 1250 01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:07,670 你好，我的朋友。 Hello, my friend. 1251 01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,870 -好久不见了。-我必须这么说。 - Long time, no see. - 1 must say that. 1252 01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,070 -你好吗？-我很好。小心！ - How are you? - I'm good. Be careful! 1253 01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:15,390 很高兴见到你。 Good to see you. 1254 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:17,910 你看起来很年轻，越来越年轻。 You look young, younger and younger. 1255 01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:19,750 我尽力。 I'm trying my best. 1256 01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:26,190 通常，我不喝酒，但今天...你能给我一点吗？ Normally, I don't drink, but today... Can you make me one of these? 1257 01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:26,910 是的，当然。 Yes, sure. 1258 01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:28,110 -亚历杭德罗？-我有这水，我很好。 - Alejandro? - I have this water, I'm fine. 1259 01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,630 血腥玛丽很好。 Bloody Mary is good. 1260 01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,670 我们先从三角形开始。 So let's start first with the triangle. 1261 01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:43,710 对所以，这个概念很简单。 Yes. So, the concept is very easy. 1262 01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:47,110 当我们在寻找石油时，由于制裁- When we were looking for oil, due to the sanctions, - 1263 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,270 -我收到了平壤政府的命令- -1 received the order from Pyongyang, from our government, - 1264 01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:55,510 -寻找不同的货源：如果有人愿意向我们出售石油- - to look for different sources: Someone willing to sell oil to us, - 1265 01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:57,190 -他不介意制裁。 - who does not mind the sanctions. 1266 01:28:57,480 --> 01:29:03,670 所以，这是我们纳雷公司想要与达索基先生达成的协议。 So, this is a deal that our company Narae wanted to do with Mr. Dasouki. 1267 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:07,830 姜先生告诉我：“看，我们也在做”- Mr. Kang told me: "Look, we are also doing" - 1268 01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:11,430 -“同时，与詹姆斯先生的生意。” - "the business, at the same time, with Mr. James." 1269 01:29:11,440 --> 01:29:15,430 “那么，我们为什么不做一个三角形呢？” "So, why don't we make a triangle?" 1270 01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:19,590 而不是你直接付钱给我们的国家- Instead of you paying to our country, - 1271 01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:24,190 -由于制裁等原因，这有点复杂- - which is a little complicated because of the sanctions, and so on, - 1272 01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:25,960 -尤其是业务的性质。 - and the nature of the business, especially. 1273 01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:32,190 “那么，为什么詹姆斯不直接付钱呢”... "So, instead of going direct, why doesn't James pay"... 1274 01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:36,110 比方说，你在买这种油- Like, let's say, you are buying this oil, - 1275 01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:38,870 -而不是朝鲜，尽管我们是接收它的人- - not the DPRK, although we are the one receiving it, - 1276 01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:43,110 -然后，这笔金额，可以从合同中扣除- - and then, from this amount, it can be deducted from the contract - 1277 01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:47,590 -以及您将在“旅游业务”中实现的操作。 - and for the operations that you are going to realize in the tourist business. 1278 01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,950 -所以，我们会收到武器…-对 - So, we will receive the weapons... - Yes. 1279 01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:54,070 …然后我们给他钱，然后他给石油。 ...and then we give him money, and then he gives oil. 1280 01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,310 他向朝鲜出售石油没有任何问题？ And he doesn't have any problem with selling oil to North Korea? 1281 01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:58,320 一点也没有。 Not at all. 1282 01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:02,190 所以他知道怎么把油弄到那里- So he knows how to get the oil there - 1283 01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:05,270 -不让船停下来？-确切地对 - without getting the boats stopped? - Exactly. Yes. 1284 01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,430 -他是海盗？-是的。 - So, he's kind of pirate? - Kind of, yeah. 1285 01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:10,320 嗯。 Hmm. 1286 01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,910 你在这一切中的立场是什么？ What is your position in all of this? 1287 01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,190 我是让事情运转起来的人，让我们这样说吧，好吗？ I'm the person who makes things work, let's say it like that, OK? 1288 01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:25,470 就像一个人在国际层面上安排一切一样- Like a person arranging everything at an international level, - 1289 01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:27,510 -就像媒人，我们可以说，嗯？ - like a matchmaker, we could say, huh? 1290 01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:35,310 我们可以说，通常情况下，大多数事情都是通过我来的- We could say that, normally, most things come through me, - 1291 01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:40,110 -我正参与我们国家许多最重要的交易。 - I'm in the middle of many of the most important transactions of our country. 1292 01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,870 在我们国家，我担任着我无法告诉你的职位- And I hold positions which I cannot tell you, in our country, - 1293 01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:46,390 -在非常高的级别上，在各部委中。 - at a very high level, in the ministries. 1294 01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:49,230 这是一个凌驾于所有其他部委之上的部委。 It's a ministry which is over all the other ministries. 1295 01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:52,550 所以，像这样的协议，你可以代表他们签署吗？ So, an agreement like this, you can sign on their behalf? 1296 01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:54,390 当然。 Sure. Exactly. 1297 01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:57,870 保证我的安全...？ And guarantee my security...? 1298 01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,150 -没错。-好的，让我们看看。 - Yes, exactly. - OK. Let's see. 1299 01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,710 他们只是认为我会交出钱- They just think I will hand over money, - 1300 01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:11,550 -我说：“我没有交任何钱。” - and I'm like: "I'm not handing over any money." 1301 01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:15,550 “我见过你，我信任你，但是…”- "I have met you, I have trust in you, but..." - 1302 01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,150 “……我想和达苏基先生面对面”。 "...I want to meet this Mr. Dasouki face to face". 1303 01:31:20,460 --> 01:31:25,220 阿曼 2019 约旦 1304 01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:34,210 所以我的两个代理人，鼹鼠和詹姆斯先生， So my two proxies, the mole and Mr James, 1305 01:31:34,210 --> 01:31:37,100 去约旦看看是否真的有个叫 went to Jordan to find out if there really is a man named 1306 01:31:37,100 --> 01:31:41,120 达索基的人，他想与他们和朝鲜达成三角关系。 El Dasouki who wants to triangle with them and North Korea. 1307 01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:52,720 祝您有个美好的一天。 Have a nice day. 1308 01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:00,750 -达苏基先生？-你好吗 - Mr. Dasouki? - How are you? 1309 01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:02,030 最后，很高兴见到你。 Finally, nice to meet you. 1310 01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,790 请来拜访詹姆斯先生。 Please come and visit Mr. James. 1311 01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:09,470 -亚历杭德罗致以问候。-是的，他发了一封电子邮件。 - Alejandro sends his greetings. - Yes, he sent an e-mail. 1312 01:32:09,480 --> 01:32:12,510 好的，是的。我昨天和他谈过了。 OK, yeah. I spoke with him yesterday. 1313 01:32:13,480 --> 01:32:15,870 我很高兴我们终于在这里了。 I am happy that we're finally here now. 1314 01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:19,590 亚历杭德罗，真的-这个男人，我太喜欢他了。 Alejandro, really — this man, I like him so much. 1315 01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,030 这很好。 That's good. 1316 01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:26,910 -他是我的头号同志。我也爱他。-他告诉我很多关于你的事。 - He is my number one comrade. I love him, too. - He tells me so many things about you. 1317 01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:32,590 -他非常...热情。-对他是一名战士。 - He is very... passionate. - Yes. He is a fighter. 1318 01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:34,430 请 Please. 1319 01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:36,680 你好，詹姆斯。 Hello, James. 1320 01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,390 -你好。-嗨，詹姆斯先生。 - Hello. - Hi, Mr. James. 1321 01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,910 -我在前台遇到了一个好人。突然就来了。 - I met a nice man in the reception. - Suddenly it happens. 1322 01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:44,670 -你好。-欢迎，请坐。 - Hello. - Welcome, take a seat. 1323 01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:46,280 很高兴见到你。 Nice to see you. 1324 01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:47,960 干杯 Cheers! 1325 01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:53,950 只是为了让我了解你做的生意... Just for me to understand the kind of business you do... 1326 01:32:55,480 --> 01:33:01,270 我现在的业务主要有两个：化工和石油。 My business now is for two things: chemicals and petroleum, for oil. 1327 01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:06,310 我和政府里的一些朋友建立了一些联系。 I made some connections with some friends in the government. 1328 01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:09,190 好生意，好主意，信任-这就是你所需要的。 Good business, good idea, trust — That is all you need. 1329 01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:12,710 如果你有一堆钱，所有的门都为你敞开。 If you have a bunch of money, all doors are open for you. 1330 01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:18,950 所以，对于你的那一份，你向政府付款，这样我们就安全了？ So for your share, you pay off the government, so we are safe? 1331 01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:23,710 这不是以你的方式，这是我的事。 That's not your way, it's my spin. It's my side. 1332 01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:25,550 不是以你的名义，也不是以任何人的名义。 Not your names, not any names. 1333 01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:28,750 坦率地说，也不是以我的名义。 Not my name also, to be frank with you. 1334 01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:32,070 因为我必须保持我的清白。 Because I must keep my name clean. 1335 01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:35,670 如果有问题，你会有一个中间人来承担责任。 You have a middle man who takes the blame, if there's a problem. 1336 01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:41,910 因为现在把东西送到朝鲜-这有点棘手。 Because getting things to North Korea right now — it's a bit tricky. 1337 01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:43,310 对 Yes. 1338 01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,710 一路上都有卫星监视你。 You have satellites up your ass all the way. 1339 01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:50,110 每次我出口到朝鲜- Each time I export to Korea, - 1340 01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:55,070 -当我回来时，我改变船的名字。 - when I come back, I change the name of the ship. 1341 01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,510 因为一旦你去了那里，你就会被列入黑名单。 Because after you go there once, you get blacklisted. 1342 01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,830 当您进口或出口时，要做的一件重要事情... An important thing to do, when you import or export... 1343 01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:06,590 ……不要直接驾驶你的船。 ...don't sail your ship directly. 1344 01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,830 一定有必要的停止并更改证件，然后再继续。 There must be a point to stop and change documents, and then go. 1345 01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:14,270 如果你需要，我可以帮你。 If you need, I can help you with that. 1346 01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:15,830 处理危险的东西， Something dangerous, 1347 01:34:16,440 --> 01:34:19,110 像机器一样， Like a machine, 1348 01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:22,270 我能做到这一点。我知道怎么做。 I can do this. I know how to do it. 1349 01:34:24,740 --> 01:34:26,240 我想这就是午饭。 I guess that's the food. 1350 01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:31,670 你好请进来。 Hello. Please come in. 1351 01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:35,130 我只是去洗手间。 I just go to the bathroom. 1352 01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:36,680 是的，当然，当然。 Yeah, sure, sure, sure. 1353 01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:38,710 它在外面，对吗？对 It is out here, right? Yes. 1354 01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:49,030 我们决定第二天见面- And we decided to meet up the next day - 1355 01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,070 -签署合同。 - for signing the contract. 1356 01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:55,630 很高兴再次见到你，我的朋友。非常感谢。 Nice to see you again, my friend. Thank you so much. 1357 01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:57,390 非常感谢。 Thank you. 1358 01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:01,910 我们开始做生意吧。 Let's do business. 1359 01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:10,550 这是我的俄罗斯签证文件。 This is my Russian visa document. 1360 01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,390 -这是用来交易石油的。-好啊 - This is for trading the oil. - OK. 1361 01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,310 把它从俄罗斯带到约旦- To take it out from Russia, to Jordan, - 1362 01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:21,190 -然后到迪拜，然后从迪拜发送... - then to Dubai, and from Dubai send it... 1363 01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:26,750 所以当你从符拉迪沃斯托克出发时，你会进入公海- So when you go from Vladivostok you go out, international, - 1364 01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:30,430 -然后你带着另一艘船回到南浦或其他什么地方，还是只是换个名字？ - and you go back to Nampo or something, with another vessel, or just change the name? 1365 01:35:30,440 --> 01:35:32,150 我用不同的方法来做这件事。 Different ways of doing this. 1366 01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:35,390 有时，它可以进入那艘船，我的船- Sometimes, it can go into that boat, my boat, - 1367 01:35:35,980 --> 01:35:37,590 -所有你喜欢的，去朝鲜。 - all you like, to North Korea. 1368 01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:39,950 有时候，你不能去- Sometimes, you cannot go, - 1369 01:35:40,340 --> 01:35:42,030 -你必须在国际水域换掉。 - you must change in international waters. 1370 01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:42,910 是的，是的。 Yeah, yeah. 1371 01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:45,830 如果你不着急，需要三十到四十天- If you're not in a hurry, it takes 30—40 days, - 1372 01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,670 -因为还有很长的路要走... - because of the long way to go... 1373 01:35:48,980 --> 01:35:50,910 是的，他们需要…没错。 Yes, they need to... Exactly. 1374 01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:56,030 …远离控制系统。 ...to get far away from the controlling systems. 1375 01:35:56,760 --> 01:36:00,710 俄罗斯政府给你合同... The government of Russia gives you the contracts... 1376 01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:04,190 一万？一千万？ 10 thousand? 10 million? 1377 01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:07,630 ……你可以在任何地方航行，这取决于你。 ...and you can sail anywhere, it's up to you. 1378 01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:11,550 好的，是的。我理解。 OK, yeah. I understand. 1379 01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,790 -这就像黑手党。-好吧，我们是黑手党。 - It's like mafia. - OK. We are the mafia. 1380 01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:18,630 他们是黑手党！我们是一样的！ They are mafia! And we are the same! 1381 01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:20,550 我们是一样的。是 啊 We are the same. Yeah. 1382 01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:27,270 最后 Finally. 1383 01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:30,790 我还需要给亚历杭德罗和达苏基先生合影。 I also need a picture with Mr. Dasouki for Alejandro. 1384 01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:38,940 合同真的签了吗？ So was the contract actually signed? 1385 01:36:38,940 --> 01:36:40,540 他们签了合同。 They signed the contract. 1386 01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:43,200 多少钱？ For how much? 1387 01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:46,230 -我想，在那一点上... - I think, at that point... 1388 01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:51,230 ……大约是三百二十万美元。 ...it was around 3.2 million US dollars. 1389 01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:59,190 -我们很快就开始干活。-非常感谢你。 - We'll do it soon. - Thank you very much. 1390 01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:05,310 不是无礼，但我能单独呆五分钟吗...？ Not to be rude, but could I have five minutes alone...? 1391 01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:06,590 是 啊 Yeah. 1392 01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:12,310 我就在外面喝一口。 I'll just take a sip outside. 1393 01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:18,710 我会把咖啡拿来。我五分钟后回来。 I'll bring my coffee. I'll come back in five minutes. 1394 01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:26,590 于是乌尔里克离开了房间，但我仍在录制对话。 So Ulrich leaves the room, but I'm still recording the conversation. 1395 01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:30,950 你能确保政府不会干涉吗？ And you can ensure that the government will not interfere? 1396 01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:36,470 这是我和你之间的私事。 This is something personal between me and you. 1397 01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:40,510 我正在与[消音]合作。 I am working with [...]. 1398 01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,990 他是我的一个朋友，这就是全部。 He is one of my friends. That's all. 1399 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:45,590 -好的-好的。 - OK. - OK. 1400 01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:53,340 在这里，达索基先生提到了一个重要的约旦权力掮客， Here, El Dasouki mentions a major Jordanian power broker, 1401 01:37:53,340 --> 01:37:57,200 但是，由于法律原因，他的名字无法公开。 but, due to legal reasons, his name cannot be disclosed. 1402 01:37:59,130 --> 01:38:05,840 {\an8}斯德哥尔摩 2018 瑞典 1403 01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:02,620 接下来，鼹鼠被要求去瑞典 Next, the mole was asked to go to Sweden 1404 01:38:02,620 --> 01:38:05,580 因为有一个包裹等着他取 because a package was waiting for him to be picked up 1405 01:38:05,580 --> 01:38:08,040 在斯德哥尔摩的朝鲜大使馆。 at the North Korean embassy in Stockholm. 1406 01:38:06,260 --> 01:38:10,050 {\an1\move(288,878,288,878,20,-20)}朝鲜驻瑞典大使馆 1407 01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:11,190 你好，李，我在这里。 Hello, Ri, I'm here. 1408 01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:12,750 -你好吗？-我很好。 - How are you? - I'm fine. 1409 01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:14,670 今天的太阳太美了。 The sun is so beautiful today. 1410 01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:16,470 所以，姜给我写信。 So, Kang wrote me. 1411 01:38:16,480 --> 01:38:18,910 是的，他把这些照片发给你看。 Yeah, he sent these photos for you to check. 1412 01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:20,190 非常感谢。 Thank you. 1413 01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:25,350 我去斯德哥尔摩的大使馆拿了一些图纸。 I went to the embassy in Stockholm to pick up some drawings. 1414 01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:30,270 你在这里看到的实际上是朝鲜的设计图纸- What you see here is actually a North Korean design - 1415 01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:34,750 -我们如何建造我们的武器/制药厂- - of how we can build our weapons/pharmaceutical factory - 1416 01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:36,910 -在乌干达。-啊。好啊 - in Uganda. - Ah. OK. 1417 01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:40,670 看起来很棒！外面看起来像个度假胜地，是吗？ It looks great! Outside it looks like a resort, yeah? 1418 01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:42,710 确切地这就是为什么我们需要... Exactly. That's why we need... 1419 01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:45,270 但里面设计得很巧妙，你知道吗？ But inside it looks so smart, you know? 1420 01:38:39,570 --> 01:38:44,390 {\an6}李先生 朝鲜外交官 1421 01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:47,470 -就像电影里的一样。-是 啊 - It's like from a movie. - Yeah. 1422 01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:49,200 就像我的电影！ Like my sort of movie! 1423 01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:54,430 这实际上是俯视图。 This is actually how it will look from above. 1424 01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:59,550 -这里有高尔夫球场吗？-可能是的。 - A golf course here? - It could be, yeah. 1425 01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:00,910 -太好了。-是 啊 - That's great. - Yeah. 1426 01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:04,830 酒店名称呢？ What about the hotel title? 1427 01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:07,510 你打算给它起什么名字？ What are you going to title it? 1428 01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:12,790 我知道他们现在将与投资者就所有这些细节举行一些会议。 I know they are going to have some meetings with the investor about all those details now. 1429 01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:16,590 看起来没有朝鲜的风格。 Not something that smells like DPRK. 1430 01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:17,600 -没错。-对 - Exactly. - Yes. 1431 01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:22,320 所以 So... 1432 01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:30,230 我希望这会成功，只要保密。 I hope this is going to be successful, just keep it confidential. 1433 01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:32,790 当然要保密 -是 啊 Confidential. Of course. Yeah. 1434 01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:38,550 如果发生什么事，我们的大使馆对此一无所知，好吗？ If something happens, our embassy knows nothing about this, OK? 1435 01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:39,830 当然 Exactly. 1436 01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:51,560 谢谢你捎我一程。 Thank you for the ride. 1437 01:39:58,280 --> 01:39:59,470 你好 Hello. 1438 01:39:51,590 --> 01:39:58,250 哥本哈根 2019 丹麦 1439 01:39:59,480 --> 01:40:01,630 这是詹姆斯先生的助手之一。 This is one of the staff of Mr. James. 1440 01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:03,670 他会带我们去房间。 He will lead us to the room. 1441 01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:07,980 然后，在这个阴谋和欺骗的故事中， Then, in this tale of intrigue and deception, 1442 01:40:07,980 --> 01:40:10,140 一个新角色出现了。 a new character made his appearance. 1443 01:40:10,140 --> 01:40:14,060 来到哥本哈根的是朝鲜特使朱先生 It was Mr. Ju, a North Korean envoy who came to Copenhagen 1444 01:40:14,060 --> 01:40:16,580 和詹姆斯先生做生意。 to do business with Mr. James. 1445 01:40:16,580 --> 01:40:20,460 朱先生最后一次公开露面是在澳大利亚版 Last time the world met Mr. Ju was on the Australian version 1446 01:40:20,460 --> 01:40:24,220 《60分钟》中，他扮演一个微笑的喉舌 of 60 Minutes, where he acts as a smiling mouthpiece 1447 01:40:24,220 --> 01:40:26,780 对平壤政权来说。 for the regime in Pyongyang. 1448 01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,190 我们曾经很脆弱，但现在我们很强大。 We were weak, but now we are strong. 1449 01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:33,230 全心全意的团结，伟大的领导- Single-hearted unity, a great leadership, - 1450 01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:35,190 -我们有洲际弹道导弹- - and we have the ICBMs, - 1451 01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:38,830 -所以我通常会对唐纳德·特朗普说：“你过来啊，” - so I usually say to Donald Trump: "Come, come, come to me." 1452 01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,630 “我会用氢弹呛死你。” "I will choke you with my H-bombs." 1453 01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:44,320 哇！ Wow. 1454 01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:49,990 我计划去丹麦旅行，以便将“旅游市场”拓展到斯堪的纳维亚半岛。 I planned my trip to Denmark in order to expand the tourism market into Scandinavian countries. 1455 01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:50,950 和 And... 1456 01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:54,910 您与我们的合作伙伴有何联系？ What is your connection to our collaboration partners? 1457 01:40:56,600 --> 01:41:00,910 我和姜先生有着多年的亲密友谊。 I have a close friendship with Mr. Kang for many years. 1458 01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:07,150 姜先生让我去进行纳雷贸易公司的武器交易- Mr. Kang asked me to pick up the weapon deals of the Narae Trade Company, - 1459 01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:12,310 -签署合同。我这里有文件。 - to sign the contract. I have the document here. 1460 01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:25,550 他还希望我成为“旅游项目”的沟通者。 And also he wants me to be the communicator of "The Tourism Project". 1461 01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:29,270 -在乌干达？-是的，在乌干达。 - In Uganda? - Yeah, in Uganda. 1462 01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:32,990 合同明文规定了三角交易： The contract stipulates the triangle deal in print: 1463 01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:37,870 詹姆斯先生购买的石油流向朝鲜- Oil purchased by Mr. James goes to North Korea, - 1464 01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:43,110 -作为回报，朝鲜向乌干达的岛屿派遣原料和技术人员- - and in return, North Korea sends products and technicians to the island in Uganda, - 1465 01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:45,150 -制造“旅游产品”的地方。 - where "tourist goods” will be made. 1466 01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:53,350 给你。你用我的钢笔。 And here you go. And you have my pen. 1467 01:41:54,480 --> 01:41:58,390 丹麦传统。实际上，你用的是酒店的钢笔。 Danish tradition. Actually, you have the hotel's pen. 1468 01:42:00,380 --> 01:42:02,720 亚历杭德罗也知道这笔交易吗？ And did Alejandro know about this deal as well? 1469 01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:05,030 他非常清楚这一点。 He was very well aware of it. 1470 01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,230 -干杯！-干杯 - Cheers! - Cheers! 1471 01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:11,350 噢！ Oooh! 1472 01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:14,030 当然。让我们试试这个。 Exactly. Let's try this one. 1473 01:42:14,480 --> 01:42:16,740 现在朝鲜人会发现 Now the North Koreans would discover 1474 01:42:16,740 --> 01:42:20,280 丹麦也是一个酗酒的国家。 that Denmark, also, is a very alcoholised country. 1475 01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:23,110 干杯！都在酒里！ Cheers! All in one. 1476 01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:30,650 看看他。哦，不，不，你必须... Look at him. Oh, no, no. You have to... 1477 01:42:30,660 --> 01:42:32,160 祝你健康！ Chin-chin! 1478 01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:42,150 之后我们参观了小美人鱼- So we visited The Little Mermaid, - 1479 01:42:42,480 --> 01:42:44,990 -但他们喝醉了，我想他们都不记得了。 - but they were so drunk, I don't think they even remember. 1480 01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:50,500 如果詹姆斯先生选择履行他在哥本哈根签署的合同， Had Mr. James chosen to honour the contract he signed in Copenhagen, 1481 01:42:50,500 --> 01:42:53,740 他必须将数百万美元电汇给达索基 he would have to wire millions of dollars to El Dasouki 1482 01:42:53,740 --> 01:42:57,260 作为向朝鲜运输石油的款项。 in Jordan as payment for oil to North Korea. 1483 01:42:57,260 --> 01:43:00,900 作为回报，朝鲜将提供人力和产品 In return, North Korea would deliver manpower and products 1484 01:43:00,900 --> 01:43:04,600 到詹姆斯先生的岛上，这就是三角贸易。 to the island of Mr. James and so goes the triangle trade. 1485 01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:07,110 -我们可以画三角形。-确切地 - We can triangle. - Exactly. 1486 01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:09,660 达索基现在在约旦的办公室 From his office in Jordan, El Dasouki was now 1487 01:43:09,660 --> 01:43:13,660 威胁要采取法律行动，除非詹姆斯先生履行他们的合同 threatening legal action unless Mr James honoured their contract 1488 01:43:13,660 --> 01:43:15,080 并给他展示资金。 and showed him the money. 1489 01:43:17,820 --> 01:43:20,980 与此同时，朝鲜武器交易商丹尼先生， Meanwhile, the North Korean weapons dealer, Mr. Danny, 1490 01:43:20,980 --> 01:43:25,380 我们在乌干达遇到的那个人正在推动与詹姆斯先生的会面 who we met in Uganda, was pushing for a meeting with Mr. James 1491 01:43:25,380 --> 01:43:27,900 以“加速”业务。 in order to "speed up" the business. 1492 01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:34,390 {\an8}金边 2019 柬埔寨 1493 01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:32,930 他们在柬埔寨的一家酒店相遇， They met in a hotel in Cambodia, 1494 01:43:32,930 --> 01:43:37,940 在那里，詹姆斯先生被提升到了信任圈的下一个等级。 where Mr. James was taken to the next level in the circle of trust. 1495 01:43:39,440 --> 01:43:43,670 我在那里时，他给了我一份新的订单清单。 He gave me a new order list while I was down there. 1496 01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:46,670 -我可以解释一下…-是 啊 - So, may I explain... - Yeah. 1497 01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:48,830 关于特殊物品业务，是的。 About the special items business, yes. 1498 01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,470 这不是一件普通的事。 It is not a common thing. 1499 01:43:51,480 --> 01:43:52,230 好啊 OK. 1500 01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:53,830 这个，第一个... This one, the number 1... 1501 01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:57,070 …这是为了攻击敌人的坦克。 ...it's to attack the enemy tanks. 1502 01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:01,750 然后第十一个可以攻击无人机。 Then number 11, can attack a drone. 1503 01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:05,790 它向无人机发出一种非常强大的冲击... It sends a very powerful impulse to the drone... 1504 01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:08,590 …然后无人机会...坠落 ...and then the drone will... drop. 1505 01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:09,830 就像那样。 Like that. 1506 01:44:12,220 --> 01:44:15,940 在柬埔寨，制裁显然奏效了。 In Cambodia, it became apparent that the sanctions are working. 1507 01:44:15,940 --> 01:44:19,140 朝鲜人迫切希望找到愿意购买的客户 The North Koreans are desperate to find clients who will buy 1508 01:44:19,140 --> 01:44:24,120 詹姆斯先生似乎是他们最大的希望。 their weapons and it seems like Mr James is their big white hope. 1509 01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:28,670 现在，在基地组织已经被击败的叙利亚- Now, in Syria with the IS already defeated, - 1510 01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:31,470 -所以在这种情况下，我们很难找到客户- - so in this situation, it's very difficult for us to find clients - 1511 01:44:31,480 --> 01:44:37,950 -他们想买一些这种军事装备。 - who want to buy some of this military armament. 1512 01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:41,270 如果您有任何客户，我们可以通过您提供商品。 If you have any clients, we can supply them through you. 1513 01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:48,950 如果我说：“好吧，听着，伙计们，我们想买大量武器”， If I'm saying: "Ok, listen, guys, we wanna buy a huge amount of weapons", 1514 01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:50,390 -我们可以做到。 - we can get that. 1515 01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:52,530 三角协议呢？ And what about the triangulation deal? 1516 01:44:52,530 --> 01:44:54,240 现在还剩下什么？ Where's that left at the moment? 1517 01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:58,230 我们有岛。我们可以明天开始那个项目。 We have the island. We could start that project tomorrow. 1518 01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:00,620 -所以这是你离开的地方？-是 啊 - So this is where you left it? - Yeah. 1519 01:45:00,620 --> 01:45:01,820 他们仍然信任你。 They still trust you. 1520 01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:03,590 是 啊，直到现在。 Yeah. For now. 1521 01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:05,940 但不会太久。 But not for long. 1522 01:45:05,940 --> 01:45:08,340 调查已尽可能深入， The investigation had gone as far as it could, 1523 01:45:08,340 --> 01:45:10,620 所以詹姆斯先生不得不消失。 so Mr. James had to disappear. 1524 01:45:10,620 --> 01:45:13,900 由于我的干预，詹姆斯先生离开了关系网 Thanks to my intervention, Mr. James went off the grid 1525 01:45:13,900 --> 01:45:18,860 然后就消失了，不再接打给他的电话，也不再回复发给他的电子邮件。 and simply vanished, no longer answering his phone nor his emails. 1526 01:45:18,860 --> 01:45:22,300 简而言之，詹姆斯先生成了一个幽灵。 In short, Mr. James became a ghost. 1527 01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:28,860 与此同时，鼹鼠在处理生意 Meanwhile, the mole was taking care of business 1528 01:45:25,910 --> 01:45:31,310 {\an8}伦敦 2019 英国 1529 01:45:28,860 --> 01:45:30,960 作为斯堪的纳维亚半岛的KFA代表。 as the KFA delegate of Scandinavia. 1530 01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:35,690 首先，他去伦敦抗议英国广播公司， First, he went to London to protest against the BBC, 1531 01:45:35,690 --> 01:45:37,420 和他的战友一起， together with his comrade in arms, 1532 01:45:37,420 --> 01:45:40,820 朝鲜友好协会的英国代表， the British delegate of the Korean Friendship Association, 1533 01:45:40,820 --> 01:45:42,320 德莫特·霍奇森先生。 Mr. Dermot Hodgson. 1534 01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:46,910 大家好，这里是乌尔里克和德莫特。 Hello, everybody, this is Ulrich and Dermot. 1535 01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:49,310 我们在英国广播公司，这是... We are at the BBC, which is the... 1536 01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:52,310 ……英国洗脑公司。 ...British Brainwashing Corporation. 1537 01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:01,630 英国广播公司继续他们关于人民朝鲜的谎言。 The BBC are continuing their lies about People's Korea. 1538 01:46:03,180 --> 01:46:08,170 {\an8}巴塞罗那 2019 西班牙 1539 01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:08,340 然后鼹鼠去了西班牙，参加了他最后一次线下会面 Then the mole went to Spain for his last in-person meeting 1540 01:46:08,340 --> 01:46:10,920 与亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯会长。 with his president, Alejandro Cao de Benos. 1541 01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:17,270 哦非常感谢你！ Oh! Thank you very much! 1542 01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:19,630 你不让，我也不让，好吧。 You insist, I insist, OK. 1543 01:46:19,740 --> 01:46:21,800 议程上有几个项目。 Several items were on the agenda. 1544 01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:25,190 德莫特，他是英国人，我去过他的家。 Dermot, he is British, and I've been in his home. 1545 01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:29,310 所以坦率地说，英国人往往很肮脏。 So frankly speaking, British tend to be quite dirty. 1546 01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:32,890 他们喜欢脏的、发霉的、生锈的东西... They love dirty, mouldy, rusty things... 1547 01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:35,590 就像，他们喜欢它。 It's like, they love it. 1548 01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:35,440 地板上还有旧地毯。 And old carpets on the floor. 1549 01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:40,270 不仅是旧地毯，他还穿着满是泥的靴子。 Not only old carpets, but he enters with the boots full with mud. 1550 01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,310 泥！在房子里，你知道吗？ Mud! In the house, you know? 1551 01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:46,560 但最重要的是詹姆斯先生突然失踪。 But most important was the sudden disappearance of Mr. James. 1552 01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:54,030 很难相信你不认识的人。甚至你认识的人。就像詹姆斯。 It's difficult to trust people you don't know. And even people you know. Like James. 1553 01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:59,550 是的，这真的让我们损失了很多钱，很多时间... Yes, that really made us lose a lot of money, a lot of time... 1554 01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:01,030 对你，对我，对朝鲜... To you, to me, to Korea... 1555 01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:03,550 我觉得自己像个大白痴。 I feel myself like a big idiot. 1556 01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:06,310 我现在在朝鲜友谊协会中是好人吗？ Am I the right guy in KFA now? 1557 01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:07,790 因为我觉得有责任... Because I feel responsible... 1558 01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:10,790 不，因为我们知道你是谁。 No, because we know exactly who you are. 1559 01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:12,070 我们知道他是谁... And we know who he is... 1560 01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:18,670 我和这种有钱人有过一些接触，我已经习惯了。 I have some meetings with this kind of rich men, I'm used to this kind. 1561 01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:21,550 只有达苏基先生这样的人例外- The exception is people like Mr. Dasouki, - 1562 01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:25,830 -他是一个非常有钱、非常有权力、非常有影响力的人...也是一个非常谦逊的人。 - who is a very rich man, very powerful, very influential... but a very humble person. 1563 01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:33,550 詹姆斯是一个投机取巧的人，他只想排挤所有人，而不承认他们的工作。 James is an opportunistic person, who just wants to push out everyone, without recognising their work. 1564 01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:38,070 你是忠诚的，即使是作为一个仆人。不仅仅是忠诚。 You have been loyal, even as a servant. More than loyal. 1565 01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:40,230 坦率地说...我没有告诉你。 Frankly speaking... I didn't tell you. 1566 01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:46,550 你对待他的方式，他对待你的方式，就像从仆人到主人。 The way you treated him and the way he treated you, it was like from servant to the lord. 1567 01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:51,190 “给我一个血腥玛丽。你想要什么，亚历杭德罗？那就给我，乌尔里克先生…” "Give me a Bloody Mary. What do you want, Alejandro? Then serve me, Mr. Ulrich..." 1568 01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:58,670 你当然是我的同志。见到你我感到很难过。 Of course you are my comrade. I felt so bad, seeing you. 1569 01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:01,670 但我们只是在游戏，所以我不得不接受这一点。 But we are playing a game, so I had to accept that. 1570 01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,470 我也在为他玩游戏。 I was also playing my games for him. 1571 01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:09,390 我知道。我们都在玩游戏。 I know that. We are all playing games. 1572 01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:16,790 你知道你必须有你可以完全信任的人。 You know that you must have people that you can fully trust. 1573 01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:21,070 因为，如果只要有一个人去中情局...只要有一个。 Because, if only one goes to the CIA... Only one. 1574 01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:23,030 你这辈子就他妈完了。 You are fucked forever. 1575 01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:28,210 最重要的是， To top it off, 1576 01:48:24,410 --> 01:48:30,230 {\an8}哥本哈根 2020 丹麦 1577 01:48:28,210 --> 01:48:32,230 鼹鼠被选为KFA年度会议的主持人。 the mole had been chosen as the host of the annual KFA meeting. 1578 01:48:32,590 --> 01:48:37,610 一直以来，作为木偶大师，是我为鼹鼠写演讲稿 All along, as the puppet master, it was I who wrote the speeches for the mole 1579 01:48:37,610 --> 01:48:40,910 现在他将发表最后的演讲。 and now he would deliver his final sermon. 1580 01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:42,070 亲爱的同志们！ Dear comrades! 1581 01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:43,950 KFA处于战争状态。我们在打仗！ The KFA is at war. We are at war! 1582 01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:47,270 我们有权向敌人开战。 And we have every right to wage war against our enemies. 1583 01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:51,150 因为一个人可以改变历史的进程。 Because one person can change the outcome of history. 1584 01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:54,790 “但是，我呢？”你可能会问。 "But, what about me?", you might ask. 1585 01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:58,230 “作为KFA代表，你在斯堪的纳维亚做了什么？” "What have you been doing as a KFA delegate for Scandinavia?" 1586 01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:02,590 我将在这里向您介绍“旅游项目”。 I will here present you, "The Tourist Project". 1587 01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:06,430 在这里。 Here it is. 1588 01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:10,390 玛娜，你能把这个拿下来吗？ Mana, can you take this one down, please? 1589 01:49:16,050 --> 01:49:18,590 按照我的计划，鼹鼠会分享 As I had planned it, the mole would share the fruits 1590 01:49:18,590 --> 01:49:21,540 他与导师亚历杭德罗一起进行的绝密工作。 of the top-secret work he had been doing with his mentor Alejandro. 1591 01:49:21,540 --> 01:49:24,110 美丽的酒店配有游泳池和酒店客房- Beautiful hotel with swimming pools and hotel rooms, - 1592 01:49:24,480 --> 01:49:26,750 -会议区、高尔夫球场... - meeting areas, golf course... 1593 01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:31,790 当然，鼹鼠只会使用甲基苯丙胺和武器的代号- Of course The Mole would only use the coded phrases for methamphetamine and weapons - 1594 01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:34,750 -这是亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯在西班牙的地堡里教给他的。 - which Alejandro Cao de Benos had taught him in the bunker in Spain. 1595 01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:39,430 当提到你吸的东西时，它是海鲜罐头。 When referring to something that you eat, it's a seafood, canned seafood. 1596 01:49:39,440 --> 01:49:41,910 当你谈论另一件事时- And when you are talking about the other thing - 1597 01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:45,590 -你可以谈论例如，让我们谈论... - you can talk about for example, let's talk about... 1598 01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:48,150 木材，木制工艺品。 Wood. Wood handicraft. 1599 01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:49,190 是的，木制工艺品。 Wood handicraft, yes. 1600 01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:51,510 由当地人手工制作。 Made by hand, by the native people. 1601 01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:52,470 对 Yes. 1602 01:49:52,480 --> 01:49:58,070 在这里的这些房间里，可以生产有机海鲜或木制工艺品。 In those rooms here, it will be possible to produce organic seafood or wooden handicrafts. 1603 01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:00,990 这里建了一条路。 There's built a road up here. 1604 01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:03,150 这将通向一个简易机场。 Which will go up to an airstrip. 1605 01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:05,830 所以我们可以空运我们的产品。 So we can fly out our products. 1606 01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:07,630 卖往全世界。 To sell in the world. 1607 01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:11,110 如果你愿意，欢迎你上来拍照。 You're welcome to come up and take pictures, if you like. 1608 01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:15,910 非常感谢。很抱歉打扰了... Thank you. I'm sorry for the interruption... 1609 01:50:20,420 --> 01:50:22,470 在KFA年度会议之后， Following the annual KFA meeting, 1610 01:50:22,470 --> 01:50:25,170 朝鲜友好协会的一名成员 one member of the Korean Friendship Association 1611 01:50:25,170 --> 01:50:28,570 在KFA的留言板上称赞了“旅游项目"。 praised the Tourist Project on the message board of the KFA. 1612 01:50:29,810 --> 01:50:34,110 亚历杭德罗告诉鼹鼠立即删除所有内容。 Alejandro told the mole to delete everything at once. 1613 01:50:27,650 --> 01:50:35,130 {\an8}”如果朝鲜进入战争状态，敌人将会犹豫是否要炸毁医院或酒店底下的军工厂。“ 1614 01:50:34,110 --> 01:50:37,830 此外，一位名叫让·保罗的成员离开了KFA Also, a member named Jean Paul left the KFA 1615 01:50:37,830 --> 01:50:40,610 因为他对间谍和黑客感到恐慌。 because he panicked about spying and hacking. 1616 01:50:46,650 --> 01:50:47,880 在这些结束时， At the end of this, 1617 01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:51,800 我雇佣了前情报官员安妮·马琼。 I hired the former intelligence officer Annie Machon. 1618 01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:54,480 在她变得无赖并成为告密者之前， Before she went rogue and became a whistleblower, 1619 01:50:54,480 --> 01:50:57,450 她当时在英国安全部门军情五处工作。 she was working for the British security service, the MI5. 1620 01:50:58,700 --> 01:51:02,000 她作为告密者的功绩使她备受争议， Her exploits as a whistleblower have made her controversial, 1621 01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:04,320 但这与我无关。 but that is of no concern to me. 1622 01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:08,160 我只对她作为间谍的资质感兴趣。 I am only interested in her qualifications as a spy. 1623 01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:11,760 经营长期卧底是她的工作， Running long-time undercover agents was her line of work, 1624 01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:15,800 在任务结束时听特工汇报情况也是如此。 as was debriefing agents at the end of their missions. 1625 01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:19,120 如果有人花了十年的时间去做某事， If someone has put ten years of their life into doing something, 1626 01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:22,240 他们在做什么时都很孤独， and they've been very solitary in what they're doing, 1627 01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:25,920 他们确实需要一个机会来告诉某人 they do need a chance just to tell someone exactly 1628 01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:28,080 他们经历了什么。 what they went through. 1629 01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:31,080 这简直就像忏悔室。 It's almost like a confessional. 1630 01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:34,080 当然，你确实想，在结束时奖励他们， And, of course, you do want to, to reward them at the end of it, 1631 01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:37,600 即使这只是一件他们无法真正告诉任何人的事， even if it's just with a recognition they can't really tell anyone about, 1632 01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:39,840 除了他们的妻子或丈夫。 apart from perhaps their wife or their husband. 1633 01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:41,920 但这件事非常重要 But it is that recognition that's very important 1634 01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:44,320 当他们卧底这么久的时候。 when they've been working undercover for so long. 1635 01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:46,520 比如一顿丰盛的晚餐？ Such as a lavish dinner? 1636 01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:48,900 是的，丰盛的晚餐通常效果很好。 A lavish dinner usually works very well, yes. 1637 01:51:51,730 --> 01:51:54,840 我想为你们所取得的成就向你们两位举杯。 And I want to raise a toast to you both for what you have achieved. 1638 01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:56,640 我想这可能是 I think it's probably the 1639 01:51:56,640 --> 01:52:00,280 最令人印象深刻的私人情报行动 most impressive private intelligence operation 1640 01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:01,820 我所听说过的。 I've ever heard of. 1641 01:52:04,210 --> 01:52:06,560 你要怎么保护这两个人 How are you going to protect these two guys 1642 01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:09,090 免受朝鲜人的报复？ from any reprisals from the North Koreans? 1643 01:52:09,090 --> 01:52:12,220 关于詹姆斯先生，他拒绝了 Regarding Mr. James, he simply refuses to be 1644 01:52:13,490 --> 01:52:18,080 你知道，保护或安全建议。 you know, protected or advised about security. 1645 01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:19,080 可以 Okay. 1646 01:52:20,250 --> 01:52:24,490 我们已经为鼹鼠的善后计划做了准备， We have prepared for an after-care programme for the mole, 1647 01:52:24,500 --> 01:52:26,850 还负责他的安全。 also taking care of his security. 1648 01:52:27,810 --> 01:52:29,040 他的家人呢？ And his family? 1649 01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:30,140 还有他的家人。 And his family as well. 1650 01:52:31,770 --> 01:52:37,640 关于鼹鼠我更关心的是 What I am more concerned about regarding the mole is that 1651 01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:40,860 做鼹鼠是他身份的一部分 being the mole has been a part of his identity 1652 01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:43,810 十多年了，你知道吗？ for more than ten years, you know? 1653 01:52:43,820 --> 01:52:46,980 那么，当我们把他带回来时会发生什么？ So, what will happen when we bring him in? 1654 01:52:49,300 --> 01:52:52,800 进入任何形式的秘密世界都非常诱人。 Entering any form of secret-type world is very seductive. 1655 01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:54,720 我从个人经历中知道。 I know from personal experience. 1656 01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:57,080 对于那些过着双重生活的人来说， And, for those who have been living a double life, 1657 01:52:57,080 --> 01:53:01,000 伴随着所有的危险和肾上腺素的飙升， with all the danger and the adrenaline rush and everything, 1658 01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:04,660 回到平凡的现实往往是非常困难的。 it is incredibly difficult, often, to go back to mundane reality. 1659 01:53:06,330 --> 01:53:09,100 哥本哈根 2020 丹麦 1660 01:53:09,130 --> 01:53:12,140 从长远来看，我们都必须面对现实。 In the long-run, we all must face reality. 1661 01:53:16,810 --> 01:53:19,440 最后，我去了哥本哈根郊区 So, finally, I went to the suburbs of Copenhagen 1662 01:53:19,440 --> 01:53:20,960 看看鼹鼠住在哪里 to see where the mole lives 1663 01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:22,890 并会见他和他的妻子。 and meet with him and his wife. 1664 01:53:25,410 --> 01:53:26,270 是的，但是... Yes, but... 1665 01:53:26,290 --> 01:53:29,790 乌尔里克有件事想告诉你。 Ulrich has something he wants to tell you. 1666 01:53:30,330 --> 01:53:34,560 一个很长的故事。 A very long story. 1667 01:53:35,870 --> 01:53:37,490 说来话长， It is a long story, 1668 01:53:37,820 --> 01:53:39,320 但让我们切到结尾。 but let's cut to the ending. 1669 01:53:40,220 --> 01:53:41,960 在某种程度上，我为自己感到骄傲。 In a way, I'm a bit proud of myself. 1670 01:53:43,200 --> 01:53:44,980 我希望你能... And I hope that you can... 1671 01:53:47,540 --> 01:53:49,370 令人印象深刻的 ...be a bit impressed... 1672 01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:52,030 …我努力实现的目标。 ...of what I've tried to achieve. 1673 01:53:52,060 --> 01:53:54,290 …为全世界记录。 ...to document for the world to see. 1674 01:53:58,310 --> 01:53:59,860 我简直惊呆了。 I'm simply shaken. 1675 01:54:00,890 --> 01:54:03,480 我觉得你是个白痴- And I think that you are an idiot, - 1676 01:54:03,500 --> 01:54:05,650 -因为你什么都没告诉我。 - because you haven't told me anything. 1677 01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:07,360 对 Yes. 1678 01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:09,390 这是一层又一层的谎言。 It's lies upon lies. 1679 01:54:11,050 --> 01:54:12,960 我觉得这太难了。 I think this is fucking hard. 1680 01:54:16,230 --> 01:54:20,460 我想为乌尔里克辩护。 There is something I want to say in defense of Ulrich. 1681 01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:23,560 这是... It's... 1682 01:54:25,220 --> 01:54:26,370 这很重要。 It's important to say. 1683 01:54:26,820 --> 01:54:30,650 乌尔里克是我见过的最勇敢的人之一。 Ulrich is one of the bravest people I have ever met. 1684 01:54:33,420 --> 01:54:38,080 每天你都看不到他勇敢。 On an everyday basis you don't see him as brave. 1685 01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:43,920 然后更像是：“振作起来，做些清洁。” Then it's more like: "Get your act together and do some cleaning." 1686 01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:48,030 他与家人保持了很大的距离。 He has distanced himself a lot from the family. 1687 01:54:48,630 --> 01:54:51,980 越来越多...他正在消失。 More and more and more... He is disappearing. 1688 01:54:52,990 --> 01:54:56,860 现在已经持续了十一年了，我不知道... Now it's been going on for ten —eleven years, I don't know... 1689 01:54:57,870 --> 01:54:58,870 对 Yes. 1690 01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:04,820 但这太疯狂了。这对我来说太疯狂了。 But it has been crazy. It has been crazy for me. 1691 01:55:05,410 --> 01:55:06,520 什么都不能告诉你。 Not being able to tell you anything. 1692 01:55:07,190 --> 01:55:09,990 我经常想：“你在想什么？” I have often wondered: "What are you thinking?" 1693 01:55:12,140 --> 01:55:14,040 我没想那么多。 I haven't thought so much. 1694 01:55:14,870 --> 01:55:17,820 我在想现在会发生什么。 I am thinking more about what will happen now. 1695 01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:21,670 当我们走到路的尽头时。 When we are at the end of the road. 1696 01:55:22,990 --> 01:55:27,660 这会给我们一家人带来什么后果... And what consequences it will have for us as a family... 1697 01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:47,320 你坐在那里，我在这里。 You will be seated there, and I'll be over here. 1698 01:55:52,450 --> 01:55:56,880 唯一剩下的是一场更艰难的对话。 The only thing left was an even more difficult conversation. 1699 01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:02,230 我的心跳得很快。 My heart is beating fast. 1700 01:56:10,670 --> 01:56:15,070 -你好。-你好，亚历杭德罗。我看不见你。 - Hello. - Hello Alejandro. I can't see you. 1701 01:56:15,100 --> 01:56:17,290 哦“开始视频”好的。 Oh! "Start Video" Ok. 1702 01:56:19,290 --> 01:56:21,050 -你好 -你好吗 - Hello -How are you? 1703 01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:22,470 很好，你呢？ Yes fine and you? 1704 01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:24,400 我很好，所以很好。 Well, I'm fine, so that's nice. 1705 01:56:24,630 --> 01:56:28,260 亚历杭德罗，在我们开始之前，我有几件事想告诉你。 Alejandro, before we get started I have a few things I want to tell you. 1706 01:56:28,730 --> 01:56:29,360 对 Yes. 1707 01:56:29,380 --> 01:56:32,470 首先，我为什么对朝鲜如此感兴趣。 First of all, why I have been so interested in North Korea. 1708 01:56:33,300 --> 01:56:36,600 要找出你的真相。 And also to find out the truth about you. 1709 01:56:37,380 --> 01:56:40,850 我们在一起的所有会议实际上都被拍摄了下来。 All our meetings together have actually been filmed. 1710 01:56:41,270 --> 01:56:43,500 我一直表现得像间谍。 And I have been acting like a mole. 1711 01:56:43,670 --> 01:56:46,060 因为我正在和你一起拍电影。 Because I am making a film, with you. 1712 01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:51,110 我真的很想让你见见一直在帮助我完成这部影片的老师。 And I would really much like you to meet the instructor who's been helping me through this movie. 1713 01:56:51,180 --> 01:56:54,220 我希望你能回答他的问题。所以，请在这里见见他。 I hope you will answer his questions. So, please meet him here. 1714 01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:56,670 你好，亚历杭德罗。 Hello Alejandro. 1715 01:56:57,650 --> 01:56:58,560 是的，你好。 Yes hello. 1716 01:56:58,580 --> 01:56:59,400 我们又见面了。 We meet again. 1717 01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:01,800 是 啊 Yeah. 1718 01:57:01,830 --> 01:57:03,720 我们正在录制此对话。 We are recording this conversation. 1719 01:57:03,740 --> 01:57:05,730 我应该告诉你- And I should inform you that - 1720 01:57:06,140 --> 01:57:09,480 -一切都在录像带上，我们基本上什么都知道。 - everything is on tape, and we basically know everything. 1721 01:57:09,510 --> 01:57:12,260 所以这是一个很长的故事的结尾。 So this is the end of a very long story. 1722 01:57:14,170 --> 01:57:16,200 亚历杭德罗，你在吗？ Alejandro, are you there? 1723 01:57:34,780 --> 01:57:36,690 他断开了连接。 He disconnected. 1724 01:57:36,910 --> 01:57:41,340 他举起手，按下停止按钮。 He raised his hand and pressed the stop button. 1725 01:57:42,470 --> 01:57:45,900 当他出现在屏幕上时，我几乎要跑去上厕所了。 When he appeared on screen I was close to running for the toilet. 1726 01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:48,230 但当我开口时- But when I opened my mouth, - 1727 01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:51,670 -然后我又回到了... - then I was kind of back in... 1728 01:57:52,990 --> 01:57:55,260 …间谍的角色。 ...the role of The Mole. 1729 01:57:57,610 --> 01:57:59,560 是的。 But yes. 1730 01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:01,310 你想再次成为间谍吗？ Would you like to be The Mole again? 1731 01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:03,470 不一样。 Not the same way. 1732 01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:07,750 嗯，你永远不知道。 Well, you never know. 1733 01:58:11,370 --> 01:58:12,640 太棒了 Great. 1734 01:58:17,130 --> 01:58:18,890 我们能看吗？ Can we watch it? 1735 01:58:23,820 --> 01:58:30,010 在这部作品中，有几个人非自愿参与。他们在不知情的情况下， 被人用隐藏的摄像机和麦克风以及虚假的身份进行录像。 1736 01:58:30,030 --> 01:58:37,130 那些被秘密拍摄的人已经被告知他们的参与、对他们提出的主张以及他们被介绍的背景。 他们在纪录片定稿前就已经被告知。 1737 01:58:37,150 --> 01:58:39,020 这是他们的回应： 1738 01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:43,640 亚历杭德罗-曹-德-贝诺斯，朝鲜友好协会的负责人，拒绝接受影片采访的邀请。 1739 01:58:43,670 --> 01:58:47,580 亚历杭德罗-曹德-贝诺斯回答说，他认为鼹鼠是 "一部有偏见的、被摆布的和被操纵的电影"。 1740 01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:51,670 希沙姆·达索基回答说："诈骗是我在这次交易中的基本目标"。 1741 01:58:51,700 --> 01:58:55,600 裘德·穆佐拉和摩西·马加拉没有评论。 1742 01:58:55,620 --> 01:59:04,700 影片中的所有朝鲜人都是受雇于朝鲜民主主义人民共和国（朝鲜）并受其控制的， 他们在做自己的工作，他们所做的事情在朝鲜并不违法。 1743 01:59:04,720 --> 01:59:13,560 电影制作人已经与朝鲜驻瑞典大使取得联系，并向他提供了朝鲜国民参与的全部场景的记录。 1744 01:59:13,580 --> 01:59:17,770 朝鲜大使馆没有对这些主张做出任何评论。